Early French Allwin
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Re: Early French Allwin
For those of us who actually know something about these machines, the show implicitly raises the issue of restoration. What does "restore" actually mean? In this case, it means an attempt to return the machine to a state that approximates the appearance and condition as new. This definition is seen in certain circles, like cars, as in "I restored my '57 Chevy." I would expect that Chevy to look like it just drove off the showroom. When dealing with antiques, the term takes on a different connotation. Much of the value inherent in antiques lies with the maintenance of the article in its current aged state. If you take an antique clock with plenty of patina and polish it up to look new, you have devalued the clock greatly. I think the same applies to our older coin-operated machines. For my money, a proper restoration of this French Allwins would have been to replace the garish yellow cloth with a nice piece of aged felt, replace the lower hinge with an identical piece and put the machine on the shelf. The man in the video transformed a stately lady into a common everyday pedestrian. I cringed to watch him Brasso up the brass. Although the program gives attention to our hobby, it is a disservice to the preservation of these treasures.
Just my opinion.
J Peterson
Opinionated in America
Just my opinion.
J Peterson
Opinionated in America
Re: Early French Allwin
So aimed at traders, rather than the enthusiast, then.
At least they are honest about it.
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As with all these restoration programs now popping up, they don’t give much info on the actual work and this program certainly limited this. They restored a Porsche 928 and showed absolutely nothing of the restoration work. On the Allwin a little more was shown, would have like to have seen the coin chute construction as they looked quite good. Of all the programs, I think I prefer Salvage Hunters version as they do give a lot of tips I have used on things like wood repairs etc.
I cannot believe anyone would have bought this machine though for £1371, there are loads of overpriced allwins permanently on eBay which never sell... Am I a little suspicious perhaps this was bumped up?
I cannot believe anyone would have bought this machine though for £1371, there are loads of overpriced allwins permanently on eBay which never sell... Am I a little suspicious perhaps this was bumped up?
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Re: Early French Allwin
I have a similar machine with a moveable clown that catches the ball (if you're lucky).
Re: Early French Allwin
There's something irritating about those, and I've never pinned down what it is.
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I only just noticed, Nick Zammeti who did the French Allwin restoration did another shortly afterwards a Saxony machine. Interesting I did not know they were from 1805.
Anyway, a shortened version and removes previous poor restoration work and, I have to admit, looks again a lot better, in fact very nice. Of course shiny metal is not my thing, but I think again this type of interest has to be good for the hobby.
Anyway, a shortened version and removes previous poor restoration work and, I have to admit, looks again a lot better, in fact very nice. Of course shiny metal is not my thing, but I think again this type of interest has to be good for the hobby.
- john t peterson
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Re: Early French Allwin
Nick did a nice job tarting up a fairly common allwin. I wonder how much time it took?
J Peterson
I love tarts, the other kind, USA
J Peterson
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Re: Early French Allwin
OMG ! he even highly polished his pennies - George V would be really pissed off
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