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john t peterson
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Re: Cricket game- what can you tell me?

Postby john t peterson » Thu Mar 27, 2014 2:58 pm

Here is the complete game:
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Re: Cricket game- what can you tell me?

Postby cheeky » Mon Mar 31, 2014 9:42 am

Come on John. How many of these do you have....? :smash:

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Re: Cricket game- what can you tell me?

Postby john t peterson » Mon Mar 31, 2014 12:57 pm

Alas, Cheeky, there was only one Cricket and he managed to hop away while I was arranging college funding for one of the children.

It was fun while it lasted.

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Cricketless in America :dammit:

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Re: Cricket game- what can you tell me?

Postby gameswat » Mon Mar 31, 2014 3:22 pm

Well JP, obviously some would say you didn't deserve to own such a machine if you were willing to put it after a family member!? :cry:
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Re: Cricket game- what can you tell me?

Postby cheeky » Mon Mar 31, 2014 8:45 pm

John T. Peterson wrote:Alas, Cheeky, there was only one Cricket and he managed to hop away while I was arranging college funding for one of the children.

It was fun while it lasted.

J Peterson
Cricketless in America :dammit:
Oh well, I am guessing you are hopping mad!

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Re: Cricket game- what can you tell me?

Postby kidston » Thu Apr 03, 2014 12:31 pm

Thank you to all who responded both on and off-list about the cricket game. The information you provided has been invaluable, and has clarified my thinking. I already have a number of time-consuming interests (too many, according to my spouse …), so I'd be reluctant to take on another restoration task- particularly one that would be better undertaken by someone more experienced in these mechanisms.

I will be fully committed for the next several weeks, so I won't be able to do anything until late May. When I'm in a position to move, I'll post here to let everyone know what's happening.

As I mentioned previously, the game is housed in a wooden box in which it can be operated- see images. The box has what would appear to be the original brass coin slot attached- it has the number 1221 stamped into it, the same number as stamped on several parts of the game itself. Lastly, one piece of information that may not have been apparent is that the cricket game is presently located in Canberra, Australia.
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Re: Cricket game- what can you tell me?

Postby gameswat » Fri Apr 04, 2014 1:49 pm

Interesting what turns up in OZ!?
John T. Peterson wrote:Alas, Cheeky, there was only one Cricket and he managed to hop away while I was arranging college funding for one of the children.
Lucky for you you're such a great father JP, otherwise I'd have been excited about this as a project and probably ended up camped out on your gamesroom floor making foundry patterns for weeks. :!: !!UHOH!! Dodged a bullet there john.

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Re: Cricket game- what can you tell me?

Postby john t peterson » Fri Apr 04, 2014 3:26 pm

Gameswat,

You're welcome to camp out on my floor anytime! I still have an AutoTalkie that calls your name.

jp

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Re: Patent Research

Postby bob » Wed Jun 17, 2015 8:29 am

Topic copied from Patent research and merged - Site Admin.

Absolutely Sterling work by Sweetmeats, Gameswat and Mr Pennymachines in finding the patents for the Twist Your Grip, Try Your Grip and the Automatic Shooting Range. No wonder I could never find these patents when searching for them years ago as they were commonly stated to be Matthewson machines and that is what I searched for them as. It's great to have established who really invented and made these machines.

Other mysteries still remain to be cleared up regarding the Matthewson machines however. There is no patent for the Golf machine, most likely as Sweetmeats says, the mechanism is based on Matthewson's Football machine. However I wonder if he originally intended to design something that worked differently. Golf machines found here in Australia had a Directions plate which had no relation to the way in which the game worked (see Matthewson's incorrect Golf plate photo). Instead they all work in accordance with a later Matthewson plate and the Rowland's Golf plate which is found on the machines that have turned up in the UK. Perhaps Matthewson got the plates made in advance for what he hoped to accomplish and still used them inadvertently or perhaps he just gave the wrong instructions to the plate maker.

Little is also known about where Rowland fits into the picture. Some of this was cleared up by Bolland but his memory was astray and he also added some misconceptions to the Matthewson story. He told Jon Gresham and others that Matthewson had used a recycled aquarium as the pattern for the Yacht Race machine. I was able to scuttle this by finding the design patents for the Matthewson machines including the Yacht Race, Cricket and Football in 1988 after an incredibly tortuous search for the British design patents. These design patents are Cricket No 377195 of 1901, Mermaid Yacht Race 399522 of 1902 and wooden cased Football machine 572441 oddly taken out in 1910 when the machine was patented in 1896. One of these wooden cased Football machines exists in Australia having been brought here by a British collector some years ago.

Strangely enough I found a zinc version of the cast iron base of the mermaid machines in a country antique shop many years ago for sale for $A800 about 400 pounds. The owner of the shop was a Belgian man who imported container loads of antiques from France and Belgium. This would figure as to my knowledge zinc was not usually used in British coin op machines, but was used in coin op machines made in France, eg the chicken egg laying and negro vending machines, the electric shocker pig etc. When I went back to the shop I was told that a local lady had bought it to use in her bathroom??? Shortly after the shop disappeared so that I never got to speak to the owner about the zinc mermaid base's origins.

Further interesting concerns about Matthewson's machines relate to two more of his coin op machines, which, to my knowledge no copies of still exist anywhere. One is a very early one, British Patent No 19, 243 of 30th September 1893 for improvements in Coin or the like Operated Apparatus for Testing the Force of a Blow, a fascinating machine which is really a coin operated version of the well known Fairground Striker which fires the coin up to a bell. The other is a much later patent British Patent no 196,650 of April 23 1923 a relatively simple machine which he called Police. Does any trace of these machines exist beside the patents?
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Matthewson's Wooden Cabinet Football Game Design Patent
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Matthewson's Cricket Match Design Patent
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Automatic Sports Company Golf machine help needed

Postby tom arcade » Sat Sep 05, 2015 5:33 pm

Topic moved & merged - Site Admin.

Hello,
I am new to the forum and hope someone can help me with a British machine that I recently purchased here in the USA. It is a golf machine made by the Automatic Sports Company. It is currently not working but hopefully it is something minor. I have several questions:

Does anyone know the proper size and composition of the golf ball ?
Does anyone have an extra back door or would be willing to take pictures of theirs or better yet make a duplicate ?
Is there any chance of locating an original stand ?
If you own one of these fantastic machines, can you take a video of it in action?
Does anyone have any photos of any Automatic Sports machines on location?
Is there any literature available on Automatic Sports - ads, etc.?
Does anyone know the original paint colors?

Sorry for all the questions, but I am hoping someone can help.
Thanks, Tom


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