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Re: Essex Flat Racer identified

Postby gameswat » Mon Jun 26, 2017 4:03 pm

Yet further proof that these machines were of original British manufacture and not US Watling. Photo showing the two size of bolts used throughout this early style mech I'm currently working on, 1/8" & 3/16" British Standard Whitworth threads.
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Re: Essex Flat Racer identified

Postby treefrog » Mon Jun 26, 2017 4:07 pm

Showing my complete ignorance, what are those two die type items, are they for threading screws !PUZZLED!

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Re: Essex Flat Racer identified

Postby gameswat » Mon Jun 26, 2017 5:04 pm

treefrog wrote: Showing my complete ignorance, what are those two die type items, are they for threading screws !PUZZLED!
How on earth have you worked on machines this long Tree without owning some of these?! Yes, these are dies to cut the outer thread of a bolt, while the matching tap cuts the inner thread for the nut.
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Re: Essex Flat Racer identified

Postby badpenny » Mon Jun 26, 2017 6:50 pm

1/8" 40 Whitworth and 3/16" 24 Whitworth

I keep imperial and metric

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Re: Essex Flat Racer identified

Postby treefrog » Tue Jun 27, 2017 10:21 am

Funnily I have had my finger on the buy button for some time as wanted one of these kits and have a few jobs needing tapping....I guess I have avoided up until now

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Re: Essex Flat Racer identified

Postby badpenny » Tue Jun 27, 2017 11:31 am

If you didn't do this in metalwork at school.
The only advice I'd give is ......
You can assure you have identified the correct size and thread by checking either the tap or the die against the corresponding bolt or threaded 'ole you've already got.
Ensure you've got the cutting tool vertical or you'll go wonky as you cut down. Wonky bolts don't go into straight 'oles nor do wonky 'oles accept straight bolts.
Apply machine oil regularly to the cutter and every half turn rotate backwards until you hear or feel the swarf cut off. You're cutting a thread not making springs and swarf still attached will damage the thread above as soon as the cutters following foul the swarf with the thread you just cut.

Others may have different views/advice, good luck and enjoy.
It's very satisfying ..... errr ... well .... I think so. !!HIDING!!

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Re: Essex Flat Racer identified

Postby jailtime10 » Thu Aug 03, 2017 7:08 pm

You may have forgotten that "old mate roger" as referenced by GAMESWAT 6/22/17, was banished to SIBERIA by 3 misinformed CLUB MEMBERS........I suggest they read ROGER'S post on 4/7/12 (Discoveries) so as to get their noses back from "out of joint".
In retribution, ROGER, surely, will be laughing , as GAMESWAT tries to get his "Rube Goldberg" prototype RACER into working order....As far as I know, there are only 4 known REAL PRODUCTION MODELS" of the RACER..."Watling" Yours truly, Mr. Putin

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Re: Essex Flat Racer identified

Postby pennymachines » Thu Aug 03, 2017 8:22 pm

Hi and welcome back Roger,
Thanks for taking time out to post. We didn't convince you - fair enough. I don't think our noses are out of joint. It was a long time ago after all and I think we convinced ourselves at least. Not that I have any particular dog in this race. It's just interesting to deduce as much as we can about the origins of our machines. I hope your nose isn't out of joint and please don't feel banished.

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Re: Essex Flat Racer identified

Postby jailtime10 » Fri Aug 04, 2017 12:01 am

Hi Mr. P..........Don't ever put yourself in a class with the 3 misinformed CLUB MEMBERS....You were smart enough to recognize that all of my posts were designed to instigate a lively discussion on the DOG RACE....There is no question that my machine had its origin in the U.K................I did ruffle a few feathers among the experts in the coin-op world.........however these "gentlemen" should have realized the "PUT ON" after reading my post on 4/7/12 regards, MR. PUTIN

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Re: Essex Flat Racer identified

Postby jailtime10 » Tue Aug 08, 2017 5:50 pm

ESSEX AUTO MANUFACTURING CO. LTD..............In a more serious mode...has anyone ever researched the history of this company to see how an auto company evolved into making WATLING(see note **) slot machines.
*** NOW THIS IS WHAT IS REFERRED TO AS A "PUT-ON"


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