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Re: Mills 4 reels Bel o Matic

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 5:58 pm
by badpenny
I agree it's Mills and also that it has to stay chromed.
I can also confirm the next round of drinks is yours and that we'll all be round to your house Saturday night for dinner.
We insist on knowing if your wife/girl friend looks like either of the girls in ABBA and we demand the answer now! dirtdog

Re: Mills 4 reels Bel o Matic

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 7:10 pm
by fredslilja
If you are willing to take the trip, me and my wife would be happy to serve you beer and a typical Swedish dinner !!CHEERS!!

Do you BP think there is a similarity??

Re: Mills 4 reels Bel o Matic

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 7:33 pm
by badpenny
Congratulations fredslilja, there is most definitely a resemblance and it's this .......



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Re: Mills 4 reels Bel o Matic

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 10:15 pm
by fredslilja
Thanks, then I know I'm not colourblind anyhow :lol:

Re: Mills 4 reels Bel o Matic

Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2012 8:26 am
by fredslilja
In the machine there is no electricity, but it looks like the two circled windows ("25 cent" and "Bel o matic") should be lit up ?? Maybe also the reel window and the award card?? ........in its original way I mean.

And............yes, yes, yes, yes, I will rechrome it some day in future !WORSHIPFULL!
I will hide it in a corner for some years and start saving money :D

Re: Mills 4 reels Bel o Matic

Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2012 10:04 am
by badpenny
From the inside the two circular windows behind the denomination and maker badges could have sported casings which might have had a light.
However it's difficult to see where a transformer etc would have sat.

I think it is an outstanding machine and would have it firmly on show!

What is the mark next to the Mills decal? It looks like a face.
I don't know if it's a trick of the light in the photograph but both wooden sides look to have a horizontal line across them about a quarter of the way up. Has it stood in water at some time?

It's certainly a beauty and I envy you. !!THUMBSX2!!

Badpenny.

Re: Mills 4 reels Bel o Matic

Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2012 3:33 pm
by fredslilja
The thing on the wood on the left side next to the Mills decal seems to me some kind of stamp in black and numbers in red starting with 19. Maybe you guys could figure out what that could be?

I don't think it has been standing in water. It is more prominent in the photo than in reality. I think maybe the lower part has been more exposed to sunlight.

The bottom plate seems to have been screwed in a stand because of the holes on the sides. I just saw a hole down on the right side near the back door. I think it is a hole for an electric cable, don't you think?

fredslilja.

Re: Mills 4 reels Bel o Matic

Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2012 9:43 pm
by silverbitz
Hi guys, I picked one up from the Dutch boys several months ago. The bad bit was that it was delivered to a friend in Kent for safe keeping and have not been able to pick it up yet from Manchester!! :(

Re: Mills 4 reels Bel o Matic

Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2012 10:04 pm
by fredslilja
Congratulation to you too Silverbitz. Let us know when you have picked it up and post some pictures of it !!THUMBSX2!!

We have to compare our machines and maybe learn something of it. !THUMBS!

Do you have any info to share about this kind of machine already?

I discovered today that my machine was on Youtube.


Re: Mills 4 reel Bell-O-Matic

Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2019 7:48 pm
by fredslilja
Hi Everyone!
It has been a while (years) since I posted. Now I have started up restoring my Mills 4-reeler.
It was not recromed (to expensive).
Decided to have it painted. It is obvious that they have tampered with the escalator. I think they have converted it from 25 cents to old danish 25 öre (a bit smaller). I think I stick to the danish coins (see the coin entry) because then the cointube and slides would work fine. It is missing several teeth on the Coin Holding Bar & Coin Advance Bar. Also the Coin Release Bar.
Someone who could help me out there with spares or a suitable complete escalator?


/fredslilja

Re: Mills 4 reel Bell-O-Matic

Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2019 9:14 pm
by radiochrissie
Omg....What have you done . !!SHIT!!
From chrome to purple, wow. Is it just me !PUZZLED!

Re: Mills 4 reel Bell-O-Matic

Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2019 9:46 pm
by badpenny
It's not a slide across escalator.
Early ones merely held the coin just played (so it was visible to the operator) then on next play it moved across and rolled it down to the coin tube.
In your photo you can see the brass ramp from the back.

BP :cool:

Re: Mills 4 reel Bell-O-Matic

Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2019 6:52 am
by fredslilja
radiochrissie, isn´t the next best to chrome darkpurple metallic ? :!?!:
Pictures can lie, specially on chromed parts. The chrome was very poor on this machine and not an option to keep. Rechrome it would cost a fortune.

BP I think the escalator has been a slide across escalator before someone tampered with it. The frame is cut, teeth on the Coin Holding Bar & Coin Advance Bar are cut off. You can clearly see dirtmarks from coins placed in a row in the escalator (se pictures).

I have checked closer on the cointube and slides and there I was wrong. Cointube and slides are size for 25cents.

I really think that a 25cents slide across escalator with the coindrop in chape of a collar would work fine. Anyone who can sell one to me? !WORSHIPFULL!

/fredslilja

Re: Mills 4 reel Bell-O-Matic

Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2019 7:55 am
by brigham
That DOES appear to be an actual escalator, hacked about to operate like the common 'Shefras' roll-down escalator substitute.

Re: Mills 4 reel Bell-O-Matic

Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2019 3:17 pm
by special when lit
Shame you couldn't get it re-chromed, but it does look good in purple. !!THUMBSX2!!

Re: Mills 4 reel Bell-O-Matic

Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2019 2:37 pm
by treefrog
I wonder why the roll down conversion. Was done on difficult coins like 3D and big pennies, but 25C is a little odd. Also it is not original to the machine as either the whole thing or parts are Sega as seen with many serial numbers on.....

Have you checked it is actually 25c, the coin slides I mean

Re: Mills 4 reel Bell-O-Matic

Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2019 3:50 pm
by fredslilja
Treefrog, the machine has operated in Denmark with the coins 25 öre which is a bit smaller coins then 25 cents. Maybe the slide bars did not work right (wrong distance between the teeth) and they just cut the teeth to get it to work !PUZZLED!

Some more photos on the escalator with stamped numbers.

/fredslilja

Re: Mills 4 reel Bell-O-Matic

Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2019 8:58 am
by treefrog
It just looks like one of the standard mods done by operators to address troublesome coin delivery and have smooth coin flow. It is a 25c one as all the spacers have 25 on them. I suspect the body is Mills and Sega parts added when rebuilt. Getting the bars with teeth on will be difficult, but if you are, or know someone with metal machining equipment, it could be made, or just look out for replacement complete item. US would be a better place to look. Try Dave Berten who does sell escalator parts and complete units and of course all US coinages. His website is down, but I understand emails still works and sells on US eBay.

Re: Mills 4 reel Bell-O-Matic

Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2019 4:11 pm
by fredslilja
No luck with escalator at Dave Berten.
BP supplied me with an escalator and great advice along the way !WORSHIPFULL! Thanks BP!

Now it is complete !!YABBADABBA!!

/fredslilja

Re: Mills 4 reel Bell-O-Matic

Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2019 4:22 pm
by badpenny
Yay! Well done you.

BP !THUMBS!