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Patent Research

Postby gameswat » Sun Jun 14, 2015 12:41 pm

New topic to continue patent research split form here - Site Admin.
The date given for these machines is 1895 and they are commonly attributed to Matthewson. Why? I have been unable to find patients for any of them. The have no name on any machine I have seen. The Footballer, Cricketer, Mermaid (yacht racer) and Artillery Duel patents are all known. They may well be older than 1895. Does anyone have information to help establish a firm attribution?
OK, I just did some research and The Grip Test, Twist Test and Pistol are not by Mathewson at all - but in fact by CHARLES ARTHUR BARRETT AND ALFRED BARRETT!! I just found the Patent for the Grip Test dated 1891.I still need to find the other two Patents but give me another 20 mins......

US 459062 A
It's no wonder then that the photos show the Grip and Pistol with the Barrett horse race in the middle!

In fact on just reading the Patent a little closer it states "Patented in England February 14, 1890". And in three different Aussie states too amazingly.
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Re: Matthewson Test Your Twist machine

Postby gameswat » Sun Jun 14, 2015 12:43 pm

Just took a couple mins for #2!
Twist test patent: US 453729 A
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Re: Matthewson Test Your Twist machine

Postby gameswat » Sun Jun 14, 2015 12:46 pm

Here's an improved US patent for the Grip Test with much better detail of the case etc. US 452688 A
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Re: Matthewson Test Your Twist machine

Postby gameswat » Sun Jun 14, 2015 1:35 pm

I've been trying the last hour but can't seem to find a way to search for British Patents online? The Grip and Twist I found were the US Patents but I can't find the Pistol version yet? I think that's possibly because the Pistol model wasn't marketed in the USA due to the fact it fires the large UK Pennies?? I bet it does exist in the UK Patents though.

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Re: Matthewson Test Your Twist machine

Postby gameswat » Sun Jun 14, 2015 1:49 pm

Here's an actual Mathewson Patent to add to the list as not currently on this site mr PM? This is for the 1912 Artillery Duel. GB191208005 (A)
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Re: Matthewson Test Your Twist machine

Postby gameswat » Sun Jun 14, 2015 1:55 pm

Another Mathewson classic not listed, Cricket Match patent. US 660798 A
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Re: British Rifle Range

Postby gameswat » Sun Jun 14, 2015 2:22 pm

Post copied from British/Australian Rifle Ranges Site Admin.

Awesome awesome awesome! While researching machines for other collectors just now I totally stumbled onto the Patent for this Aussie classic dating 1930, a rip off from the 1901 British Electric Pistol and Rifle. GB363373 (A)
Can't say how thrilled I am to find this as I own two of the machines and fill in a lot of blank history for me!

Mr PM, I think I proved my case and we can change this heading to "Aussie Electric Rifle Range"....please? **xXx**
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Re: Matthewson Test Your Twist machine

Postby gameswat » Sun Jun 14, 2015 2:56 pm

Still can't find that damned Pistol Patent, but did discover this Force Testing Patent also by Charles and Alfred Barrett at the same time which would indicate there is an un-found Punch Test as part of the series too! US 446970 A
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Re: Barrett Test Your Twist machine

Postby pennymachines » Sun Jun 14, 2015 3:55 pm

Fantastic work Gameswat! CoNgRaTs
The Matthewson Cricketer is listed already, by the way, as GB189914484

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Re: Barrett Test Your Twist machine

Postby bob » Mon Jun 15, 2015 12:25 am

Fantastic work indeed by Gameswat. As soon as I read the letter by Sweetmeat my brain started ticking too in that I've never seen any label by Matthewson on these machines or seen the patents either and I've searched all the British Matthewson patents years ago. Congratulations to Gameswat for searching the patents and coming up with some of the answers. I think that the issue is confused by the plates on both the Matthewson Golf etc machines as well as The Automatic Shooting Range machine having the Rowland name on them and that this is what could have misled Costa and thus all of us. Peter Grilli with whom I was in contact some years ago regarding these machines etc has researched the cast iron machines and had some contact with the Matthewson family and may be able to throw further light on this matter.


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