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Re: CAM AUTOMATICS?

Postby badpenny » Mon Apr 06, 2009 8:34 am

"... (Badpenny to insert inuendo here)"

Thems is brave words from a man who's still waiting for the arrival of his owner's manual regarding his Imperator, yessiree brave words partner, yes indeedee! !COOOL!

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Re: CAM AUTOMATICS?

Postby slotalot » Mon Apr 06, 2009 11:52 am

Hi Jeremy :D , or should that be howdy partner! Yes the Imperator manual… I had forgotten that you were going to post it !SMILER! , but now that you have remembered that you had forgotten to remember to post it you had better post it now before you forget, as I might not remember to remind you… anyway that’s a lot clearer now we have sorted that out…or I think it is, to be quite honest I can’t remember :mad: …. Look after yourself, Stuart.

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Re: CAM AUTOMATICS?

Postby slotalot » Sat Aug 08, 2009 3:41 pm

A BRIEF HISTORY OF CAM AUTOMATICS
I have been doing some research into the history of the Cam Automatics slot machine company of Seaham Harbour, and I have managed to find and email Mr Craig Murray the son of the late owner of Cam Automatics, details are as you might expect after 50+ years a little hazy but this is what Craig told me;

Yes, it was indeed run by my father. Unfortunately I was born in 1958 myself, so I am afraid my personal knowledge is very limited as I believe my father's ownership of Cam ended about 1965. I know the entire industry was only just legalised, and was in danger of being taken over by organised crime in those early days. I also know my father managed to make and to lose a substantial fortune in very short time. I have spoken to my mother who didn't ever visit the premises in Seaham, but like me did not recall that they made their own machines at least I don't think they engineered the gaming mechanisms. I am pretty sure the machines were all Bell Fruit. My guess is that only the artwork was specific to Cam, and may have been ordered customised from the manufacturer. I have no memories of these machines without reels at all.
My father who’s middle name was Cameron hence the name Cam Automatics had been civilian entertainments officer at RAF Lakenheath, a then enormous USAF base where US law applied - and still does today. Gaming had been legal in the US while still illegal in the UK, so he had managed many slot machines on the base and when gaming was legalised in the UK; he was one of very few British people with experience of the industry. So I am pretty sure Cam started by modifying American made machines. That there was also a link to Bell Fruit I am sure.


I asked Mr. Murray if he would like to add a photo to this article, as of yet he has not replied.
I have also contacted Bell Fruit but unfortunately the company records do not go back that far so they could not tell me if they made the machines or not.
Maybe we will never know the truth of who made this range of small machines but it looks as if Cam Automatics was not the manufacturer after all, and the Cam Girl Machine may be the only one accredited to them.

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Re: CAM AUTOMATICS?

Postby wb » Sat Jun 04, 2011 11:53 am

slotalot wrote:
Operator Bell wrote:Now that gives me an idea. These Cam Girl types are nice, simple machines, and any reasonably competent handyman could build a replica,
Hi Opp Bell :D , I am ahead on you with this one ;-) , I started to make my own version called Wild West a few weeks ago, I did my own graphics with the aid of your clasic fruit symbols,this has now been put on hold till I get my crane machine sorted out, This is as far as I got :oops: , check out the photos, dont ask me for a wiring diagram :!?!:.... cos I made it out of my head!!!!! (Badpenny to insert inuendo here) :tarah:
Hey, I like the graphics you did for your machine, how did you print them? are they professionally screen printed or done with a printer??

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Re: CAM AUTOMATICS?

Postby slotalot » Sat Jun 04, 2011 1:45 pm

WB wrote:
Hey, I like the graphics you did for your machine, how did you print them? are they professionally screen printed or done with a printer??
Hi WB :D , I had forgotten all about this machine, never got it finished, I used the parts for another project !PUZZLED!
As for the graphics? I did the design in word on my computer !!JUNK!! You could use a fancy program like Photoshop if you wanted to :!?!: I used a mix of clipart and some fruit symbols that can be found in the forum Resources. These symbols were done by our very own "Operator Bell" !THUMBS!

Once I got the design ready, I decided on the finished size and converted it to PDF. I took the PDF to our local print shop and had it laser printed onto white crack-back plastic (sticky back plastic). I stuck this print to a sheet of 3mm glass, I then put a second sheet of 3mm glass over the print, sealed the edges of the 2 sheets of glass with a very small amount of clear silicone sealant and let it dry. Once dry, the rear of the glass should be blacked out in the areas where you don't want any light to shine through :~: You could use paint or thick card to do this :tarah:
P.S. don't forget to post your results on here for all to see once you have had a go :oops:

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Re: CAM AUTOMATICS?

Postby wb » Sun Jun 05, 2011 6:14 am

It looks fantastic, very neat job there. It's a shame you didn't finish it.

I came across this post as I've just bought a Treasure Island and was hunting for circuit diagrams for it as it's been butchered for arcade use and been dramatically rewired so it only pays out about once every hundred goes!

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Re: CAM AUTOMATICS?

Postby slotalot » Sun Jun 05, 2011 9:34 am

WB wrote: and been dramatically rewired so it only pays out about once every hundred goes!
You will find that most of these type of machines only have a very low payout ratio anyway. I was looking at a machine for a friend only last week !PUZZLED! , it had a uniselector inside that gave the machine 50 light change combinations on the glass each time the uniselector did 1 revolution. Out of that 50 possible stops only 3 were payouts !!GRUMP!! so it almost never landed on a win :oops:
But then they were made to give you hope :D and at the same time take all your money :-(
Do you have any photos of your machine that you can post on here? !!CHEERS!!

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Re: CAM AUTOMATICS?

Postby wb » Sun Jun 05, 2011 9:53 am

Yeah, I've just taken some. It doesn't work yet, will have a look at this machine next. It doesn't have GPO Strowger Uniselectors in it, just motorised cams and the wiring is horrendous for what it does!

.... Just rebuilding a Jubilee International at the moment. It used to be a Pot Black machine, but converting it to a Rainbow Falls.
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Re: CAM AUTOMATICS?

Postby gameswat » Sun Jun 05, 2011 11:05 am

Hey Slotalot, did you end up adding any more winning combos to your friends flasher? Was it possible to do this easily enough or not? Often I've either made a game harder or easier depending on what it was like when it arrived here so that the players actually get some decent fun and thrill.

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Re: CAM AUTOMATICS?

Postby wb » Sun Jun 05, 2011 12:55 pm

If a machine is too tight, people don't play it, and if it pays out too much, then it's boring. The happy medium is a tricky one.


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