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Re: Hi from foggy Oxfordshire

Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2019 11:11 am
by oxford allwin fan
Post split from Hi from foggy Oxfordshire - Site Admin.
oxford allwin fan wrote:
Sat Feb 16, 2019 12:27 pm
...to my delight I have just acquired an old HALFPENNY PLAY PAYRAMID!!!

It cost loadsa money but I am quite delighted...

Predictably, I would like advice on how to restore/maintain the Payramid and will create a post asking the question 'should I restore or conserve?' (questions like 'should I strip the horrible old paint from the metal parts of mechanism & repaint it' and ' should I have the chrome redone; it is quite badly worn?')

Morning gizas, won nd awl.. Perfectly pixilated Payramid picture phinally posted (possibly, if postee's phingers phunctioning!)

Re: My half penny play Payramid

Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2019 2:10 pm
by pennymachines
luckystar wrote:
Sun Feb 17, 2019 1:31 pm
I think the Pyramid is one of my favourite games. Was it originally on one old penny?
It's one of my favourites too and I have a slight preference for this more compact first version (but am told the later version attracted more play).
The adverts for these early Bryans games said, in addition to the old penny, they could, "be supplied for ½d., 1/-, or any coin over the size of 1/- at no extra cost." Occasionally, I believe, they were made to order on foreign coins for export.

Re: My half penny play Payramid

Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2019 2:23 pm
by john t peterson
This Payramid looks fine in its current condition. Personally, I would leave the chrome parts as they are. Their current condition support the age of this machine like the fine lines in the face of a beautiful woman as she ages. Bright an shiny would steal some of the history this game has earned.

J Peterson
My 2 cents from America. :byee:

Re: My half penny play Payramid

Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2019 4:11 pm
by special when lit
Definitely agree with Mr Peterson, looks great as it is.

Re: My half penny play Payramid

Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2019 4:18 pm
by pennymachines
Looking at the instruction card, I think I can make out, 'INSERT HALF PENNY', in which case it would have been factory built for that coin. The '1p' was presumably painted on the coin entry in the '70s when it was sleeved for that coin, and the sleeving will have been removed.

Apart from the missing locks, I see a couple of other things - the oak veneer appears to have gone from the front, and the original beading around the inside of the playfield has been replaced. Unfortunately, that's hard/impossible to obtain, short of having it made up. Such details only worry the purists amongst us who hanker after absolute originality. For reference, see BP's Payramid here.

Re: My half penny play Payramid

Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2019 5:55 pm
by oxford allwin fan
Thanks for comments.
Yes; it's a 1/2d play- coin conversion removed.

Instruction card is glued in and is rather rough; needs to be replaced; anyone got one they could copy for me please?

Locks being refurbished.

You know, I think I'm inclined to agree about the chrome/obvious age etc... But I intend to replace the glass if I can.

...and I'm going to refurb the cabinet too - the main case has been painted gloss black - is that 'right'?
Side panels varnished wood; they look v good.

Best to all...

Re: My half penny play Payramid

Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2019 6:14 pm
by pennymachines
Bryan's often made the main case darker for a kind of two-tone effect. It is shown like that in their flyer. Not sure if it was stain or paint.

There are payout cards in Resources but you would have to change 'PENNY' to 'HALF PENNY'. If you prefer a reproduction to the original which is showing its age, I would recommend just placing the copy over the original. Always best to preserve what's there when you can.

The example below shows the ½D on the top casting which you might find is behind some filler on yours. In my picture hunt, I've yet to find a '30s Payramid which hasn't at some time had its case refinished. This may give you pause to consider before stripping yours.

Re: My half penny play Payramid

Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2019 12:17 pm
by arrgee
Nice machine oxford allwin fan, I would agree with Mr P and Mr PM: leave as much of the machine 'as is'. Presumably it all works correctly? What are those 'wiggly' marks under the mirrors - scratched glass?

I like these Payramids, they are great fun to play and extremely hard to drop the jackpot! Interesting that most collectors prefer the original 1930s version yet the 1960s Payramid is far more rare; according to Paul Braithwaite's Arcades and Slot Machines, 623 1930s version were made, whilst 380 1960s Payramids were made. Just goes to show that desirability can sometimes over-ride rarity.

Re: My half penny play Payramid

Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2019 5:08 pm
by brigham
I wonder what proportion were on ha'penny play? Most arcades kept an old allwin to mop up the odd ha'pennies at the bottom of our pockets, but I don't imagine many were ordered new after 1930.

Re: My half penny play Payramid

Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2019 5:44 pm
by yaksplat
I'm still waiting for one of these to show up in the States...