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Pennies Only labels

Postby arrgee » Sun Mar 05, 2017 9:17 pm

Taken from an original label, dims in mm.
This original label was printed, not a Traffolyte.
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Re: Pennies Only label

Postby bryansshort » Mon Mar 06, 2017 3:07 pm

That's great thanks and I am sure will be of much help to many members. Do you know what machine maker produced this? My Oliver Whales label has rounded ends.

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Re: Pennies Only label

Postby badpenny » Mon Mar 06, 2017 4:31 pm

I'd be surprised if a machine maker did manufacture these.
They'd seem to be the sort of thing likely to be bought in as needed.
Most manufacturers of furniture and household appliances proudly stuck printed and embossed labels on their products. Even the retailers would shove another one next to the one placed by the manufacturer.

There would have been a lot of small companies around to supply such labels.
During World War Twice the clockwork bomb release switchgear fitted to British Bombers were mass made in the USA and they too arrived with a small label proudly stating the name of the company which made them.

Aircrew involved in the bombing of the German homeland near the end complained to their squadron commanders that they didn't feel comfortable dropping high explosives on civilians by using a mechanism labelled "Mills Novelty Company"
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Re: Pennies Only label

Postby arrgee » Tue Mar 07, 2017 11:38 am

Bryansshort wrote:Do you know what machine maker produced this
As BP said, probably not produced by a machine maker but bought in. I have seen many variations in shape. This one is on a 1930s Saxony Allwin, originally a Reserve Allwin and I would think the label is fairly old as well, made from an early plastic compound.

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Re: Pennies Only label

Postby bryansshort » Tue Mar 07, 2017 2:30 pm

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This is the label I'm looking for, I made the mistake of trying to remove wood stain from the original with paint stripper, BAD MOVE!
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Re: Pennies Only label

Postby pennymachines » Tue Mar 07, 2017 3:54 pm

Here you go - traffolyte and printed 1D labels. Both are exactly 2" wide.
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Re: Pennies Only labels

Postby gameswat » Tue Mar 07, 2017 6:17 pm

Bryans and PM I think you're mistaking the use of Traffolyte which is differing coloured layers of phelonic plastic or the like, that when machined shows through the underlying colour. The Pennies Only labels shown here with rounded ends are just stamped and inked at the same time or possibly painted black after stamping. I've only ever had maybe two or three of the Traffoyte labels on any of my machines, and they were always added later so I presumed they came into greater use in the 60's.

Just had a look through my box of badges and labels etc as thought I had a spare laying around but must have used it years ago. The Traffolytes are easy to spot as they're engraved, so the letters corners are always rounded with no sharp edges or ends, plus the edges will show both colours.

This is from the website of a manufacturer:
" Traffolyte is a common name for 2 ply plastic designed specifically for engraving. By removing the top ply/layer to reveal a contrasting colour, cost effective, durable and fit for purpose engraved labels and signs can be easily and economically created. Traffolyte was originally manufactured in England in the 1930’s. "
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Re: Pennies Only labels

Postby pennymachines » Tue Mar 07, 2017 6:35 pm

OK, thanks for that. As I said, I never heard of the stuff until bryansshort mentioned it. I guess the laminate should be obvious from the edges.

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Re: Pennies Only labels

Postby bryansshort » Wed Mar 08, 2017 10:49 am

Thanks for that definitive info Gameswat. I had just assumed the labels were Traffolyte. Thanks for the photos, I'm in with a chance now if I can print off a patten of the right dimensions. Do you have more dimensions you can post please, width, radius of the rounded ends, distance of the black border from the edge and material thickness? I'd be much obliged.

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Re: Pennies Only labels

Postby arrgee » Wed Mar 08, 2017 11:19 am

Here is another old label, however the print has come off but the image of the 'PENNIES ONLY' is still just visible, owing to the print masking the plastic from the 'darkening' effects of daylight. This label is also 2" wide.
Interestingly the letters are of a serifed font.
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