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Re: Looking forward....

Postby treefrog » Sat Oct 31, 2020 6:33 pm

Well we are looking likely to have a lovely nice lockdown again......hope you have your projects ready........I need to dig out a few items, me thinks and make a trip for essential supplies, hopefully will have time |/XX\|

Will this ever end !!RANT!! !!RANT!! !!RANT!!

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Re: Looking forward....

Postby badpenny » Sat Oct 31, 2020 9:36 pm

I know I'm going to sound like a grumpy old fart, and I can only comment on what I've witnessed.
All during this we've been one of the lowest in UK, and the place was like something out of an apocalyptic film. You could even cross main roads without bothering to look.

Then ....! The university and colleges opened. Everything went out the window. It was like Leicester Square 24/7, we had street parties and crowded clubs any night of the week.
And here we are!

Round the corner from here lives a Senior Education Advisor to Downing Street. She was forced into a neighbourhood forum on account of her own son turning her house into a three day rave while she was on holiday. Once she'd eaten humble pie on his behalf they turned on her regarding reopening the "Uni'" and flooding the place with disrespectful individuals from outside. Her simple explanation was that it had been discussed at cabinet level and if it had been decided to close the halls of learning then the government would have been forced to refund all of the university fees. So it was decided to take the risk.

I don't have enough interest nor insight into any of this, all I know is for the last two and a half months it's been like Mardi Gras round here. We shot from tier 3 to 1 in one fell swoop. The demographic show those hit hardest are the young and of course the elderly and infirm whom are most vulnerable.
Interestingly having a butchers' at the records regarding the Spanish event in 1918. It's very similar in pattern and public behaviour :!?!:

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Re: Looking forward....

Postby coppinpr » Sat Oct 31, 2020 11:06 pm

the school and uni thing has me beat! it makes no sense. Pretty much a full lockdown from Thursday (you think its like mardi gras now , wait for the next 4 days!!)
Anyway, during the lockdown schools and uni are expected to stay open and rules stand like this right now, if a 3rd form child turns up at school and tests positive all the 3rd year goes home BUT if that child has a brother/sister in the 4th form that child is law-bound to go to school until they test positive. Then, of course, we have the FACT that if one child goes to school with the virus every other child in the school has the potential to take the virus home and infect all their households, without penalty, whereas if just 3 people from different households get together they face huge fines. The truth is there are two options to get out of this, a vaccine or we all get it for about three years in a row at which point the immune system should be strong enough to fend it off in the future,at least that is what happened in 1919 and 1348 (although the latter one took longer to immunise the population due to fewer people and less general physical communication '!'

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Re: Looking forward....

Postby badpenny » Sat Oct 31, 2020 11:58 pm

Two things about The Black Death/Bubonic Plague.

At least in the 14th Century during the first cycle of the plague it stopped a war between us and the French.
However that didn't go away either, it's next visit was of course in the 1660s and was only eradicated in London by The Great Fire of 1666.

And finally it was recently announced that it has re-emerged in .... Guess Where?
All of you who said China should be criticised for jumping to stereotypical prejudices and also awarded ten points for being correct.
There has been a vaccine for it since the latter years of the 19th Century, but it constantly needs revising.

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Re: Looking forward....

Postby coppinpr » Sun Nov 01, 2020 9:56 am

However that didn't go away either, it's next visit was of course in the 1660s and was only eradicated in London by The Great Fire of 1666.
not quite true,the next major visitation was around 1360 and is known as the "the children's plague" as it appeared to affect only young people although this may well have been because the first hit carried of a whole generation, on average there was a visitation every 15 years until 1669 with fewer people affected each time, the last in London was in 1860. it reached the west coast of the USA in 1900 and spread east,it now has a hold the USA plague reservoir but is no longer considered a threat. it reached Australia at about the same time and there were outbreaks until 1925. Although the great fire certainly helped it did not eradicate the plague,high numbers of plague deaths in London are recorded in the bills of mortality until 1679 when they started to decrease rapidly,in 1700 the column recording plague deaths was removed from the bills as no longer needed.

One interesting fact that always sticks in my memory is that we have Gerbils to blame, the disease had resided in the Chinese plague reservoir (Gobi dessert)for hundreds of years (as it still does now) the Gerbil population was infected but largely immune .in 1328 and 29 two exceptionally good summers increased the gerbil population to a point where they started to expand across the Gobi reaching the trade routes and infecting the camels of the traders .This actually happened again in 1860 causing a pandemic sized outbreak that caused a massive number of deaths in China but due to China's isolation at that time it did not escape to the rest of the world.

you don't need a vaccine for bubonic plague,it was identified in the late 19th cent as bacterial and it treated with the most basic of antibiotics (usually streptomycin) although,as BP say, it needs to be tuned up regularly as humans get used to antibiotics

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Re: Looking forward....

Postby arrgee » Wed Nov 04, 2020 2:42 pm

badpenny wrote:The university and colleges opened. Everything went out the window. It was like Leicester Square 24/7, we had street parties and crowded clubs any night of the week.
And as the majority of youngsters are not seriously affected by the virus, why would we expect them to behave responsibly !
It has been suggested to me, somewhat sardonically, that this is just a way that certain sections of the younger generation are ostensibly 'getting back' at the older generation for taking the country out of Europe !!!
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