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Your thoughts on a non slot subject please

Postby coppinpr » Tue May 31, 2016 10:20 am

I know this is nothing to do with our subject (thats why its in this section) but id really like some feedback from you guys on a new project im starting.

On my recent trip to the far east I was very surprised to find all the millions bycycles had disapeared from the big cities to be replaced by electric scooters. These look like near perfect student,short distance commuter,shopping transport as well as camper/caravan(canal boat) latch on run-about or fun bikes.
Ive decided to start importing them,I have a sample batch on order with the factory in China.
Attached are the details,Im not trying to sell them on the site,its early days yet,they wont be here for a while, the factory makes 20,000 per month yet they are still running about 21 days backlog!! then there is the shipping time.

I'm just asking for some feed back,any ideas and comments,good or bad are welcome. thanks, Paul....
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Re: Your thoughts on a non slot subject please

Postby badpenny » Tue May 31, 2016 11:09 am

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I'd imagine the above is required, but am no expert on these matters.

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Re: Your thoughts on a non slot subject please

Postby coppinpr » Tue May 31, 2016 1:13 pm

yes, as it says on my blurb "CE cert"

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Re: Your thoughts on a non slot subject please

Postby treefrog » Tue May 31, 2016 1:34 pm

My only feedback is this looks like a scooter and goes like a bike.

If you do your research, there are dozens of electric bicycle options out there, some exceed 15mph and similar ranges. Also they look like bikes, lighter, more manageable and most importantly have peddles with gears if needed.

Just wonder what happens when you hit a steep hill or cycle on a pavement in a park and get the police called out on you, especially for not wearing a helmet.

At least the electric bicycles look like bikes not scooters.

Just my 2c worth, for what it is worth.......they sit between a electric bike and scooter, but not sure whether better than either !PUZZLED!

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Re: Your thoughts on a non slot subject please

Postby youngerap » Tue May 31, 2016 3:24 pm

I do not wish to be a killjoy, but these are not bikes; they are motor powered vehicles ("Max speed 15mph but built to go faster"). "No insurance required"? I can see a nightmare coming for anyone unfortunate enough to be whacked by one of these machines being driven by a redbull-charged teenager. Who does one sue?

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Re: Your thoughts on a non slot subject please

Postby pennymachines » Tue May 31, 2016 3:53 pm

treefrog wrote:Just wonder what happens when you hit a steep hill or cycle on a pavement in a park and get the police called out on you, especially for not wearing a helmet.
This, maybe... :!?!:
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Re: Your thoughts on a non slot subject please

Postby badpenny » Tue May 31, 2016 7:10 pm

coppinpr wrote:yes, as it says on my blurb "CE cert"
Oh yes, so it does, my eyes aren't blurb compliant.
What do they weigh?
The wheels look plastic are they?
youngerap wrote:I do not wish to be a killjoy, but these are not bikes; they are motor powered vehicles ("Max speed 15mph but built to go faster"). "No insurance required"? I can see a nightmare coming for anyone unfortunate enough to be whacked by one of these machines being driven by a redbull-charged teenager. Who does one sue?
They are electric powered bicycles with pedal assistance and as such appear to be within the law. However Segways and self balancing hoverboard things have suddenly been made illegal mainly for the way they were being used. Like those mini motos the irresponsible activities of the numpties these things attract usually results in an adverse public opinion. Look at the bad publicity drones now attract.
I imagine you'd have to take a civil action against the owner/rider, however if they're a gobby "I know my rights" teenager they won't have anything to pay you with anyway.
Mind you that in itself could be a business opportunity, selling insurance for commission.

Disability pavement scooters 4 mph, don't need a license or insurance (however there is a move to remedy that) not a bad thing in my view.
When someone in the family got one a few years ago it was spelt out how you could be sued if you ran into someone or caused an accident so we were frightened into buying it.

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Re: Your thoughts on a non slot subject please

Postby coppinpr » Wed Jun 01, 2016 8:18 am

I can see a nightmare coming for anyone unfortunate enough to be whacked by one of these machines being driven by a redbull-charged teenager. Who does one sue?
the situation is exactly the same as if you are hit by a bicycle(which often go faster than 15mph) or electric bicycle
there are dozens of electric bicycle options out there, some exceed 15mph and similar ranges. Also they look like bikes, lighter, more manageable and most importantly have peddles
ALL electric bikes are restricted to 15mph by law,many,including mine, will and do go faster but not within the law, almost all standard electric bikes sell for over £1000 and are not as good an option for shopping or short commutes especially in wet weather. these bikes do have peddles as they are EAPC compliant. Your quite right, they sit between a bike and a scooter which is what I like. Interesting too that in China the move has been completely to these and not standard electric bikes ,which are more like the peddle bikes they were used to, I suspect that is because these are so much more versatile when carrying goods or a second person. Im not saying they are better than anything but that they will fill a gap .
My only feedback is this looks like a scooter and goes like a bike.
yes that is what its soposed to be but giving you a cleaner ride with more carry options
They are electric powered bicycles with pedal assistance and as such appear to be within the law
they dont "appear" to be within the law they "are" within the law,they are designed that way, as I said before being hit by one would be the same as being hit by a peddle bike,and dont say that is not as bad because it can be,very much so, yet no one is saying lets have compulsory insurance for peddle bikes!

All good feedback, Im surprised no one sees anything good in them (although I think I know why that is) when they are so popular all over those parts of the world where they have been introduced

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Re: Your thoughts on a non slot subject please

Postby aristomatic » Wed Jun 01, 2016 11:41 am

In general, we should be positively promoting non powered pedal cycles for all ages to assist in the problems of child and adult obesity. In Manchester they are trying by developing protected cycle lanes from traffic into the city centre, whilst increasing public transport options with extension of the tram network and other projects. It makes life difficult now but for those that follow it will be a more pleasant experience to be able to cycle to work/school/college/leisure etc.

I have no idea what current legislation is, however should Paul and others make this and the like, the preferred Xmas present for every 14 and 15 year old, then l am sure the legislation will have to change appropriately, but for the time being l am sure you will find plenty of buyers although l'm not a fan.

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Re: Your thoughts on a non slot subject please

Postby youngerap » Wed Jun 01, 2016 8:46 pm

I suspect that is because these are so much more versatile when carrying goods or a second person
Second person? They doing a tandem version then?

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