Philip Shefras? allwins

[scottie]

Thank you Mr pennymachines,
As of posting the last message, I now own one... ( Philip Shefras Double Your Money).
Could you or anyone post a picture of the "hopper" (where the pennies sit inside of the machine).
I think I am missing two payout slides. The one payout slide I have, is two pennies thick.
questions:
#1 How thick are the two other pay-out slides?
#2 Does any one reading this have these parts for sale? Please let me know...
#3 What are the different payouts of each of the 11 cups?
And last, but not least, what year would you say this game is?
Thank you all once again,
scottie.

[treefrog]

Your machine only has one slide bar, so all wins are 2 coins I would guess. I am sure there is another picture on here of one with the missing two bars. In full complement it would be 3 slides, I would guess 6 in the middle, 4 in the middle of two sets of 2, but you should be able to tell looking at the back of the ball gantry. I have no spares for these, but obviously the coin tube is missing...

[scottie]

Hi treefrog,
There is another picture of a "Double Your Win" (front of game) on page 3 of this posting.
I can't see what the payouts are, even when I zoom in on it??? 6 4 3 1 ??
Knowing this will help figure out the pay-out slides.
Usually it's 1,2,3 or 2,4,6, etc., but with this type of pay-out system I'm not sure.
scottie

[pennymachines]

The top payouts are: 2, 2, 4, 2, 2, 6, 2, 2, 4, 2, 2.
You can see this on Treefrog's Safari, which, as I mentioned before, is a Double Your Money with the wrong top glass.
I think the Safari, Plentywin and Flash-Win have identical payout schemes.

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I guess it uses three slides, each two coins deep.
I also believe that, like Bryan's allwins, these have operator-set variable payouts. You rotate the long four-sided wood block with the payout numbers to the chosen scheme and set the sprung ball diverter to match. This channels winning balls to the lower payouts.
No doubt, Treefrog can confirm or correct.

I only have the Jackpot to compare, which pays 2 or 12 with a 2 coin and 10 coin slide:

[scottie]

Excellent.
Thank you Mr Pennymachines.
Now I can start working on getting some new slides made up.
Interesting your JACKPOT pays 12. Wow, that must have been the game to play back in the day.
scottie

[pennymachines]

It might be worth waiting for Treefrog to say if I'm right about the 3 x 2 penny slides, before cutting metal...

[treefrog]

Now the reason I was cautious with the payout as PM has forgotten that mine is an electric payout, so single slide.....See piccies below.Also at the bottom have the Jackpot version, with the massive slide for the jackpot and yes very generous. The visible coins seen from the front are a false jackpot.

On the other machine, there is an interesting wooden block with 4 payout options as seen below, you can rotate, I guess changing the slide our combination as required.

See in action

[scottie]

so ...just so I am clear, Mr treefrog.
does my machine have, three slides, each two coins deep
thank you once again for all your help
scottie
p.s what year would this machine be from?

[treefrog]

Scottie, As per your email, see below picture and explanation although I am not great at explaining these type of things.

On these they have a channel the balls drops into, one for 2 coin, one for 4 and rear one (middle) for 6. Depending what one your in, eg 2 coin win will trip the associated lever above the winning slide lever. The thing is if the 4 win is obtained it will also force down the 2 slide lever and with a 6 win, both the others levers are forced down, tripping all three slides. You will see below picture, the pink arrow on the bar controlling the first slider lever when the higher win is tripped. This is a picture of a two slide win on the Jackpot allwin. You can see the lower levers marked with the green arrow controlling the slides. I think yours is missing the levers for the two other slides as well as the slides. Maybe converted . Do you have the award bar you can rotate, as there should be one for all 2 win's you could change this and not worry about the other wins as maybe difficult to replace unless you make them.

[scottie]

After reading your post and running down stairs, looking at the machine, I now understand what needs to be done.
Thank you so much Treefrog,
scottie.