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Sapphire (Apex Amusements) bandit identified

Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2014 2:19 am
by ybot
Hello,

I was moving house on the weekend and found this one arm bandit machine in a lady's carport. I asked her about it and she gave it to us for free.
I've always wanted one as a talking piece to put in my studio and now I have one. I think it needs some tlc but it can go in line with the vintage fridges and 68 mini I also have to restore. ha.

Can anyone tell me a make or model or brand or age? I'm In Australia so it may be a long shot but I couldn't really find an Aussie forum for these, only pinball and amusement machines...

Any help would be very much appreciated. It looks like it's all there but I need a fuse to get it to fire up and I need pennies of which I have none. :(


Toby

Re: Can Anyone tell me this brand/make?

Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2014 8:40 am
by coppinpr
Welcome to the forum, and yes you did pick the right place - this is the best and most active slot forum on the net, by far, and we have lots of members in Aus.
Don't know this particular model but it looks like an Aristocrat machine made by the Ainsworth Dental Instruments Co. in NSW (late '60s, early '70s my guess - the Aristo boys will know the exact date). They went on to become one of the world's biggest slot machine makers. We have several Aristo experts (some in Aus) who will be along soon to correct my answers and give you all the dates and info. Well worth restoring and easy to do as Aristos are pretty much indestructible. I don't know if you realise but this is NOT an electric machine; it operates purely mechanically. The power is just for the lights and possibly the jackpot payout indicator. It looks to have run on shillings so would run on old 5p coins - lots available at little cost. You can test the machine without coins by the way.
It will look great restored with the lights working. Can we see photos of the inside, especially the mech? This will simply slide out of the case once the thumb screw is released.

Re: Can anyone tell me the brand/make of this bandit?

Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2014 2:58 pm
by pennymachines
I'm no bandit buff, still less an Australian pokies expert, but my instinct is that, despite some similarities, it isn't by Ainsworth Industries. Quite a few small Australian companies had a bash at making bandits from the late 1950s. Yours appears to be from the same stable as the Sapphire (shown here). I've seen one other example, but I assume 'Sapphire' was the name of the machine and not the manufacturer, so unfortunately this doesn't get us much further.

Re: Can anyone tell the brand/make of this Australian bandit

Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2014 1:18 am
by john t peterson
Mr. Gameswat? We're calling you, Sir. !!><!!

Help required.

J Peterson
Transpacific Co-ordinator

Re: Can anyone tell the brand/make of this Australian bandit

Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2014 6:48 am
by gameswat
No idea what this is. !PUZZLED! Pity Andy Pollitt moved on as he'd probably know something? Though the 1/ is for Shilling play which is the same as our current 10 cents.

Re: Can anyone tell the brand/make of this Australian bandit

Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2014 10:09 pm
by treefrog
Has Andy left the hobby?

I wonder if this is from the Coronet camp, there are some of the unusual design features in these.

Re: Can anyone tell the brand/make of this Australian bandit

Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2014 10:13 pm
by ybot
Cheers for the replies guys.

I'll get a few snaps tonight of the inside. It all seems to be there and there is a serial stamped on the inside of the slide in mechanism. I'm glad she will run on the 10c piece. When I pull the arm I can see a black (almost) propeller spin and a few cogs moving, but the handle won't pull down far enough to turn the wheels around.

I called an amusement hire place here and they wouldn't talk to me and told me my machine was illegal to own... Weird, as the currency it takes is obsolete. Still, it makes me like it a touch more.

Even if it's a knock off machine, are parts readily available still or no parts at all?

Toby

Re: Can anyone tell me the brand/make of this bandit?

Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2014 10:17 pm
by ybot
pennymachines wrote:Yours appears to be from the same stable as the Sapphire (shown here).
This machine is very similar. I've been searching online for a day or so now and haven't come across anything this close. lol This is just what I need - another hobby/collection.

Re: Can anyone tell the brand/make of this Australian bandit

Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2014 11:22 pm
by gameswat
ybot wrote:I called an amusement hire place here and they wouldn't talk to me and told me my machine was illegal to own... Weird, as the currency it takes is obsolete.
Even though theoretically all gambling machines are illegal for private ownership in Oz, the Aussie law doesn't seem to bother or care about machines running on obsolete coinage. But since the Shilling and 10 cent piece are the same, you do actually have an illegal machine. So don't go advertising it in Gumtree or the paper!

Re: Can anyone tell the brand/make of this Australian bandit

Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2014 10:17 am
by andydotp
G'day all. Hope everyone's well, been preoccupied with work and middle-aged "mens' problems' plus trying to complete the manuscript for my book.
The picture tells the supplier under the reels but it's too blurred to read. Reckon Dave's right though and probably a Sapphire. They were an off-shoot of Apex Amusements in Sydney so early-mid Fifties and probably a Mills gooseneck mech. MLB - stampings ybot? I'm in Melb so feel free to PM me any time. Gameswat's right too, be careful with the local laws.
Anyone for some 'fire sale' bandits?
Cheerio,
And. x