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Ice Hockey games

Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2015 12:08 pm
by 53chevy
Hi,
I was at the Elephant House auction the last month and a stand alone two player Ice Hockey game went through.
I wondered if anyone was there and can tell me a bit more about the machine. I'd like to add one to my collection.
Unfortunately, I missed out on the day, but if anyone has info or the same machine please get in contact.

pat

Re: ice hockey game at elephant house

Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2015 12:29 pm
by moonriver
1950s ice hockey coin operated table game on ebay now......looks familiar £675 !OMFG!

Re: ice hockey game at elephant house

Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2015 12:46 pm
by 53chevy
Thanks very much I'll contact them when I get home

Regards pat

Re: ice hockey game at elephant house

Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2015 2:14 pm
by badpenny
I am astonished at prices like that.
Up until about 5 years ago I was buying those for no more than £200 and mostly £175. And selling at £250, hardly worth doing really.
Let's be honest they aren't a very exciting game to play.
Even in the day they were mainly played by those killing time waiting for someone to move off something more exciting like the Grand National.

Re: ice hockey game at elephant house

Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2015 2:43 pm
by jonesthegarage
They are a sort of nothing game aren't they, I sold mine for around the £250 mark about 2 years ago to a former ice hockey player and I was happy a) with the price and b) to get rid of it.

It takes up a lot of room and doesn't do much, very much like my goodself since retirement

Re: ice hockey game at elephant house

Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2015 3:51 pm
by pennymachines
I think the game has a certain knockabout charm. There was demand for them back in the day, with several manufacturers turning them out. Ruffler & Walker made them in the UK:
Ruffler & Walker Ice Hockey
Ruffler & Walker Ice Hockey


Ruffler & Walker Ice Hockey
Ruffler & Walker Ice Hockey

In America, jukebox manufacturer J P Seeburg's version had hockey sticks scored into the sides:
Seeburg Ice Hockey
Seeburg Ice Hockey

I believe the Elephant House example (top of page), although it lacks the hockey stick sides, was a Seeburg, erroneously listed as Rock-Ola. These tend to fetch higher prices than the English version, and are sometimes referred to as the 'Rolls Royce of Ice Hockeys'.
Seeburg Ice Hockey
Seeburg Ice Hockey

The Germans also made several high quality versions, including Hanno's Hanno-Hockey:
Hanno-Hockey
Hanno-Hockey

and Jentzsch & Meerz's IMOHOCKEY Model B
Jentzsch & Meerz IMOHOCKEY model B
Jentzsch & Meerz IMOHOCKEY model B

But to my mind, the most desirable is the auto-scoring 6 manikin IMOHOCKEY model A, made in 1936 by Jentzsch & Meerz.
Jentzsch & Meerz IMOHOCKEY model A
Jentzsch & Meerz IMOHOCKEY model A

The example above was recently on ebay US for an ambitious BIN of $3,600!
A 1950s version called Toto-Fix, by Lumet, is currently on German ebay with a BIN of Euro 1099. These seem to be relatively common, at least in Germany.
Lumet Toto-Fix
Lumet Toto-Fix

Th. Bergmann made a version called Hurricane:
Bergmann Hurricane
Bergmann Hurricane

There is also a miniature, possibly Swedish-built, 6 manikin version:
Swedish?
Swedish?

and a late, Formica-clad, game called Mini-Match by Jamieson. Unusually, in this game, the two teams play from within their own halves of the pitch.
Mini Match
Mini Match

Nowadays they seem to have been largely superseded by Air Hockey.
I've borrowed some images from our German friends at Antik-Automaten
There's a two page list of coin-op hockey games at arcade-history.com.

Re: ice hockey game at elephant house

Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2015 5:30 pm
by gameswat
Chevy, the Rockola Ice Hockey you pictured were hugely popular and produced from the early 1930s, I guess until the war.

Re: Ice Hockey game at Elephant House

Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2015 6:35 pm
by pennymachines
Only I believe it's a Seeburg, not Rock-Ola. ;-)
The one below, presumably is Rock-Ola and sold for £620 in the EH , March 2014.
135.jpg

It was bought by an operator who, if memory serves, then offloaded the one (top of page) basically because the ball lift mechanism was knackered. Hope I'm not speaking out of turn, but at auction the motto "buyer beware" always applies.

I say "presumably is a Rock-Ola", because I can't currently find any proof that Rock-Ola actually made an Ice Hockey machine...

Re: Ice Hockey game at Elephant House

Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2015 11:56 pm
by bob
The Rolls Royce of Hockey/Ice Hockey games would have to be the Chicago Coin Goalee a great electro mechanical game:
http://www.pinrepair.com/baseball/goalee.htm
Great to look at, great to play.
see also:
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/93520129737136996/

Re: Ice Hockey game at Elephant House

Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2015 2:59 am
by gameswat
Gameswat wrote:Chevy, the Rockola Ice Hockey you pictured were hugely popular and produced from the early 1930s, I guess until the war.
Oops, I was thinking Seeburg and writing Rockola, too late at night.............. !PUZZLED!

Re: Ice Hockey game at Elephant House

Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2015 11:00 am
by pennymachines
After a little more research, I've concluded that Rock-Ola didn't make Ice Hockeys. This seems to be a myth perpetuated in the UK, possibly because a Seeburg game ended up with Rock-Ola pinball legs. Anyway, I've amended my earlier post, till someone proves me wrong. Also, looking through the Arena I see a plain cabinet example (Lot 137, Coventry sale, 2010) which was attributed to Seeburg:
137.jpg

Apart from the cabinet detailing, the game design is identical:
Seeburg-Hockey2.jpg

Chicago Coin developed the concept further than any other manufacturer.
They made Slap-Shot in 1950:
Slap-Shot.JPG

and Criss Cross Hockey in 1958, with one of the manikins controlled by the machine:
CrissCrossHockey.jpg

They updated Goalee in 1961 into Pro Hockey:
Pro-Hockey.jpg

and produced the 10 manikin Hockey Champ in 1968:

Re: Ice Hockey game at Elephant House

Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2015 7:36 am
by 53chevy
Well thank you all for your comments I know the game is a bit naff. But I've been a ice hockey fan for many years and coached a lot of street hockey back in the day so anything ice hockey related I'm always interested.
Regards 53chevy

Re: Ice Hockey game at Elephant House

Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2015 2:29 pm
by jingle
These machines take good money in an arcade
And are very reliable
The public love them
Too,,I know were there is one with the art work on the top
But the ply bottom is rotted
It's in a mates warehouse and been sitting there for
Ages ,I think he wants about 500 for it
It also has no legs
I would go and get some pictures
But I am in bother at moment as I have snapped my archiles tendon :cry: :cry: :cry:
And in plaster for next 3 to 4 months

Re: Ice Hockey game at Elephant House

Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2015 4:13 pm
by badpenny
Sorry to hear that Bob, bloody painful.

Re: Ice Hockey game at Elephant House

Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2015 11:04 pm
by 53chevy
Thanks for the info and get well soon and if I'm not offered a machine that is complete with very little work to be done, I'll keep that one in mind, but reading the other posts it sounds a bit dear. But if I don't get one it might be worth doing the work.

Best regards,
53chevy

Re: Ice Hockey game at Elephant House

Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2015 6:52 pm
by gameswat
Just noticed that Mutoscope also made a version of the Ice Hockey in the 1930s. And looks like it's almost exactly the same as the Seeburg down to the figures around the playfield and sticks routered into the outer case! The 1957 Munves catalog list both makers under the same photo for $75, I think it is the Seeburg, as it appears to have the squared basic legs, while the Muto advert shows early curved top pinball style legs.

Re: Ice Hockey game at Elephant House

Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2015 5:55 pm
by dutchboy
Evening everyone, just seen this in the Netherlands. Will this be all original? It have a bid of 700 euro's since 14 sep. http://www.marktplaats.nl/a/verzamelen/ ... ousPage=lr

Re: Ice Hockey game at Elephant House

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2015 12:02 pm
by pennymachines
As far as I can judge from the single exterior image, it looks good and original to me. If you do buy it, I'd appreciate a scan or close-up of the ice hockey player graphics on the corners.
Good luck! :cool:

Re: Ice Hockey games

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2015 12:36 pm
by gameswat
PM, forgot to mention earlier but the 1950 date you posted for the Chicago Coin Slap Shot is way off. It's very late 60's or early 70's. We had one and it used quite modern parts and I figured it had to be early 70's. Just quickly looking around I see dates of 1968 and 1969 plus into the 70's listed. This great site for flyers says 1972 http://www.pinball-gallery.com/recherch ... AGO+-+COIN

Re: Ice Hockey games

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2015 1:41 pm
by pennymachines
I got that date for the Slap-Shot from The International Arcade Museum, but I guess I only had to look at it to see it's later. 1972 sounds more plausible.