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Sega Mad Money Glasses? (wanted)

Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2016 10:39 am
by ronnie63
The glasses on this are a bit flaky? might touch up okay but if I could find good glasses that might be better.

Thanks Ronnie
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Re: Sega Mad Money Glasses? (wanted)

Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2016 12:30 pm
by badpenny
Ronnie ....

By "Flaky" are you saying the paint applied to the rear side is lifting off?
If so, I guess we've all experienced this. It will have been mass produced, probably by silk screen.

Many of us have had a go at repainting the loose/lost bits and then spraying over with matt white, with various results. This can be acceptable, although often it can be seen if back lit.

I'd be asking myself if I can find NOS to replace it with how much would that cost compared to what the machine is worth.
BP

Re: Sega Mad Money Glasses? (wanted)

Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2016 1:01 pm
by coppinpr
This is not usually seen marked as a Sega machine, it's a re-vamp using pre used Sega mechs. It is possible Sega actually made these cases and sold them to distributors to add their own art - no one really seems to know if they did or another re-vamper got hold of the mechs and built the cases. The most common are from AI (Slough). Yours seems to be from a different distributor. They usually added a hand fill JP behind the belly glass window (operators often coved this up with a nasty payout card). It looks much better opened up as the little JP unit is chromed. There are lots of variants but this is the first Mad Money I've seen myself. Getting a replacement glass would be a matter of pure luck, but there are more than one style of glass using the Mad Money reels (see below).

I've had about six of these and they are always easy to restore. They are small and go well into a games room. They are also pretty much indestructible.

I've had some success repairing the art on these; it's never going to be perfect though. It can be surprisingly successful to stick the large flakes back in place with clear spray lacquer. Other methods are to use glass paints (Hobbycraft sell some) then matt white sprayed over the re-paint, or sometimes acrylic paints work with some colours. The biggest problem with all these repairs is the lighting - any belly glass lighting shows up the repairs to a greater or lesser extent. If it's real bad, you can photograph the glass and either make one up yourself or get one made. I can send a photo of the glass shown below if it helps.
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Re: Sega Mad Money Glasses? (wanted)

Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2016 2:58 pm
by ronnie63
Thanks for the replies and info guys. Yes, the paint is flaking and lifting but I have seen worse. A lot of it is black area so might touch in okay. I have used crylon triple thick in the past on pinball glass - it works good but is pricey! I was surprised to find these are electro! I guess when I get round to this one I will remove the glasses and see how it goes.

Thanks Ronnie

Re: Sega Mad Money Glasses? (wanted)

Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2016 5:54 pm
by treefrog
This is a real Sega, the Windsor there were a few variants, eg the Speedway, Aztec, Playboy and Mad Money. Also there were the one's with the sailing boat on (can't remember name) and the Phonographic image.

I have a box of about 20 'glasses for Windsor and Buckingham machines and will have a look at the weekend, you never know I might have one.

Most of these glasses suffered from the lights behind them and shrank/cracked and then eventually flaked

Re: Sega Mad Money Glasses? (wanted)

Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2016 6:38 pm
by ronnie63
Thanks treefrog, be amazing if you found any, the top glass is the worst, I have yet to clean it but it looks to be good under the filth, this also came from a local auction

Ronnie

Re: Sega Mad Money Glasses? (wanted)

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2016 8:51 pm
by coppinpr
I'm currently also working on a machine with badly flaked glass (some of you may have seen the poor fellow at Coventry - Jubilee Tic Tac Toe). I was in Hobby craft today and noticed a new paint that I thought might work and it really is just the job. It's actually for making raised designs on glass and tile so it goes on thick. From our point of view, the raised side is of course on the inside and not showing, just a nice flat solid colour from the front and, more to the point, it's designed to be light proof. I have found that no matter how bright a light you shine from the rear no sign of the repair shows through. I've only tried the black so far but see no reason why other colours would be different. It's called "Pebeo, relief outliner". Very impressed.
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Re: Sega Mad Money Glasses? (wanted)

Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2016 3:02 pm
by ronnie63
treefrog wrote:This is a real Sega, the Windsor there were a few variants, eg the Speedway, Aztec, Playboy and Mad Money. Also there were the one's with the sailing boat on (can't remember name) and the Phonographic image.

I have a box of about 20 'glasses for Windsor and Buckingham machines and will have a look at the weekend, you never know I might have one.

Most of these glasses suffered from the lights behind them and shrank/cracked and then eventually flaked
Just wondered if you had time to look through your glasses treefrog?

Cheers Ronnie

Re: Sega Mad Money Glasses? (wanted)

Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2016 9:41 pm
by treefrog
I have a few of the top glasses, not flaking, usual knocks, but reasonable.

Re: Sega Mad Money Glasses? (wanted)

Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2016 8:46 pm
by ronnie63
Wow great they look good, are you willing to part with one? if so PM me or I will you

Thanks Ronnie