Jennings Governor Tic Tac Toe reel strips

[coppinpr]

Is this the strip you're looking for? I've just about finished making this set for someone else.

[seancalla]

Hi
Yes that's the one can you make one for me and I will pm my email address
Sean

[treefrog]

I suspect if you print out a single reel, you may want to do all three as it may not match the others.

[seancalla]

Thanks for the help. Have got the reel strip organised.
I have another question. The machine is permanently in free play. I can't figure out how to reverse it. It's not like other machines I have worked on . I suppose if I post a few photos it will give a better indication
Sean

[brigham]

If the machine plays without the insertion of a coin, it has a fault, and it's generally in the coin detector.
This usually consists of a thin rod which moves forward until it is stopped by the presence of the coin. Often it becomes bent, and stops against some other part of the machine, allowing the mech. to operate without a coin inserted.
It will be simple to rectify, once you find it!

[coppinpr]

Does the chain escalator move correctly? Can you actually put a coin in and pull the lever? Is it on 1 play per coin or two? If two, then it either has two coin detector rods or every other tooth on the chain has been removed which works but is not perfect. The most likely cause is someone wanted it on free play (god knows why) and intentionally bent the detector rod to butt against the escalator frame. As Bingham says, if it's that, it's a two min job. Just be sure to set the rod at the correct length or it won't work at all.

[seancalla]

Hi
I don't see the usual set up I would be used to for other slots. Here are a few photos covering back front and side
Sean

[coppinpr]

The photos don't quite tell the story other than that you need some new springs and (I think ) the spring in photo 6 is wrongly attached, plus the escalator needs a good clean. The coin detector pin is only partly on view and appears to be in the right place (but it's hard to tell if it's poking through the escalator or not).
You still didn't say if the escalator works correctly? From the photos there doesn't seem to be any coins in it.
Can you put a coin in the slot, pull the handle and see the coin move across the escalator in front of the pin?
Is it one play per coin or 2?
What coin is it on?
When you pull the handle with no coin in the slot does the detector pin move forward looking for a coin?

In photo 3 the bars that are attached to the coin detector seem to be in the "coin detected" position (which is away from the escalator). This is correct if the machine is at rest. If you pull the handle with no coin in the machine they should move to the forward position, forced into that position by the pulling of the handle. This should push the detector pin through the escalator into the "no coin detected" position and would also stop the long horizontal bars from engaging the mech and therefore not allowing the machine to play. If they do not move forward when you pull the handle then the machine will think there is coin in the slot and allow the machine to play.
From what we can see so far, a good clean and removal of that oil and grease plus some new springs might be all it needs.

[seancalla]

Hi
The escalator is working. It takes 5p the one from 70s and 80s and it two plays per coin. I think from looking at it that there is a piece missing that attaches to a lever and from there to the horizontal piece-coin detector piece. The horizontal piece does not move and the missing piece would be linked to that and stop the handle being pulled. I will take a photo tomorrow and will make more sense.
Sean

[coppinpr]

I went and pulled a Jennings running on the same 2 pulls for a 1/- and took some photos.
Firstly the spring in your photo "3" is very wrong - Jennings would never have used a spring in this way. It crosses another spring and attaches to a plate screw on the escalator. It would never have been done. As far as I can see, this spring should not be there at all. I suspect someone has added it because the escalator was dirty and not able to reset correctly without it.

The main lever that moves the detector arm forward is "b" in the photo. It's not visible in your photos as "a" is blocking the view. If it's this lever that is missing, then that is the problem. A part I've never seen removed before and (possibly) not easy to find.

The horizontal arms are connected to the detector pins by the two screws marked in the next photo. There may only be one as your machine has had every other coin guide removed from the chain to allow for two plays per coin. The other method of getting two plays was to leave coin guides in and add a second pin detector so that although the coin moved every pull (instead of every other pull, as in your case) it would still find a detector pin for the second play.

[seancalla]

Hi
Thanks for the explaination. It's much clearer now. The lever (b) to push the horizontal lever is there. If you look at the side profile picture where the arm comes down to start a spin I think there is a piece missing there. There isn't a piece there to stop the spin if a coin is not inserted.
Sean

[coppinpr]

Well, as usual, by tracking backwards we get there in the end. Although your photo is a little too dark and close to the machine to be certain, it appears that the operating lever lock assembly is missing (or at least part of it). It consists of the large down arm with a smaller arm attached, its associated spring, and the shouldered retaining screw that holds it to the machine at the bottom. This should lock the handle when lever "b" in my earlier photo moves forward.

[seancalla]

Hi
Thanks the whole piece seems to be missing. Probably a difficult piece to get or even make as I would need one as a template.
Sean

[aristomatic]

I'd keep an eye on ebay...

Wanted parts requests on the forum can trigger an eBay listing from someone trawling the forum or you may get a pm here....

Moderator may advise you to post a paid for wanted advert in the Market too. It's only 40p I think.

Or wait for EH and or Coventry auction as may be parts or part mech available to purchase there.
I'll have a look but don't think I have any, only complete spare mechs.

[seancalla]

Thanks for the information. I might have a lead on one but need exactly same type I presume for this series they were all the same
Sean

[coppinpr]

I think all models after 1931 are the same.
This is what it looks like:

[seancalla]

Thanks for all the replies. Will keep an eye out for one also looking for coin insert chute on the inside. The parts from US I looked at are too expensive
Sean

[seancalla]

Hi
I got hold of an operating lever lock. I can't figure out what pushes/pulls it into place when there is no coin inserted. I can't see where a spring could be connected to pull it forward and stop the handle from being used. If anyone can post photo's of a similar machine please
Sean

[chris rideout]

The "TIC" and possibly the orange looked real enough but the cherry/plum/bell/lemon look like Sega symbols to me!

[coppinpr]

The operating lever lock is a little confusing as there are actually two springs although, for some unknown reason, only one is associated with the lock assembly. The first spring attaches as per photo 1 from the smaller arm of the lever lock assembly and the second spring attaches from the larger arm as per photo 2 afterwards.