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Re: BDR Breadbin

Postby slotey » Sat Nov 30, 2019 6:57 am

The last two posts - isn't that what I said in my post?

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Re: BDR Breadbin

Postby geordy55 » Sat Nov 30, 2019 6:08 pm

Well my machine is at work so will have to wait till Monday now before I have another go. Plenty ideas to help me though, thanks.

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Re: BDR Breadbin

Postby geordy55 » Mon Dec 02, 2019 3:47 pm

Ok, a little update. My extra long Allen keys arrived this morning, so I started in trying to free the handle. After getting nowhere, I decided to see if I could lever it off and low and behold it flew off like greased lightening. Not sure if I freed it up or just didn’t realize the technique to get the handle off. Anyway, after removing the case, I can now declare that this machine is now my favourite. The engineering inside is unbelievable compared to traditional bandit mechanisms. It all runs, pays out like it should and has a double jackpot (the reels aren’t in too bad condition either) so all it needs is a little service to make it run smoother and quicker and a paint job on the cabinet. Thanks for all your help.
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Re: BDR Breadbin

Postby gameswat » Mon Dec 02, 2019 4:38 pm

Geordy you never explained what holds the handle in place? What's to stop it falling off once you clean and lube the machine and play with vigour? Maybe that latching lever already described by others has gone missing?

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Re: BDR Breadbin

Postby treefrog » Mon Dec 02, 2019 4:57 pm

One recommendation is don’t use any abrasive cleaner or wire wool etc on the polished stainless steel case. They are easily damaged by over zealous owners and I have seen loads like it up for sale with ruined cases. Of course it maybe possible to polish the scratches out, but best avoided in the first place.

Also a shame so many of the original stands are missing, which fitted flush under the cabinet. I recall one coming up for sale for £12 at the Elephant a few years ago, which I should have snapped up, but did not need one.....

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Re: BDR Breadbin

Postby geordy55 » Mon Dec 02, 2019 5:48 pm

gameswat wrote:
Mon Dec 02, 2019 4:38 pm
Geordy you never explained what holds the handle in place? What's to stop it falling off once you clean and lube the machine and play with vigour? Maybe that latching lever already described by others has gone missing?
Well actually nothing was holding it in place, I can only assume that the woodruff key that locates it onto the shaft is tapered slightly and levering off from inside is enough to remove it.

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Re: BDR Breadbin

Postby pennymachines » Mon Dec 02, 2019 8:21 pm

As I mentioned, it should be held by a tiny little grub screw in the hole you indicated. I believe it locks into a thread in the shaft, because it's too small to offer much grip. As you say, it's a terrific (and still underrated) bandit. As you're going to repaint, I trust you'll preserve the Union Jacks on the sides.

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Re: BDR Breadbin

Postby coppinpr » Mon Dec 02, 2019 11:19 pm

This is also my favorite machine, the only problems you might get on rare occasions are ,1. there is a small flip plate that allows a coin into the JP every 5 coins (might be a little different on the double JP) this can get stuck if too many coins get into the JP tubes and they over fill and then coins cant get out of the delivery shoot and the machine jams.you need to adjust this flip plate if its a problem
2. the clearance at the bottom of the normal payout tube is quite critical , a disc turns under the tube grabbing coins and rotating them out to the payout cup, if this clearance is not just right the machine will either miss coins or jam coins depending on if the gap is too big or too small.
Because of the way the payout symbols are produced directly onto the reels careful touching up with the correct paint makes a pretty much perfect restore

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Re: BDR Breadbin

Postby coppinpr » Mon Dec 02, 2019 11:49 pm

gameswat wrote:
Mon Dec 02, 2019 4:38 pm
What's to stop it falling off once you clean and lube the machine and play with vigour? Maybe that latching lever already described by others has gone missing?
It may well be Geordy's latch lever is indeed missing, but I thought I'd take a good look today and see exactly what goes on with the handle. In fact the grub screw doesn't hold the handle in place. Close examination shows that when fully screwed in it's flush with the top of the small keying bar (a). The grub screw's job is to hold this key in place and allow for it to be replaced if worn.
The latch bar is all that holds the handle on, fitting into the groove (b) but not so deep as to touch the moving handle.

This ingenious simple little system means the handle and case can both be quickly removed without the need for any tools or know how on site.

The hole (c) is unthreaded and I can only assume it's a lubrication access to the handle axle.
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Re: BDR Breadbin

Postby geordy55 » Tue Dec 03, 2019 12:16 am

Paul,

My lever is not even threaded where the grub screw should be!

Think I must be missing the latch bar.


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