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Re: Niche Collections
Posted: Sat May 02, 2020 5:45 pm
by cait001
new post:
Niche Collection 005: Caitlyn's purely mechanical and upright games
http://pinballnovice.blogspot.com/2020/ ... urely.html
Re: Niche Collections
Posted: Sun May 10, 2020 4:12 am
by cait001
Niche Collection 006: Neo Skywalker's Euro pinball machines
https://pinballnovice.blogspot.com/2020 ... -euro.html
Re: Niche Collections
Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2020 2:08 am
by cait001
Re: Niche Collections
Posted: Sat Jul 11, 2020 12:50 pm
by pennymachines
A cool and very unusual collection. Nice to see so many first generation Pachinkos all in one place.
Re: Niche Collections
Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2022 11:41 pm
by cait001
Re: Niche Collections
Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2023 5:05 am
by cait001
Re: Niche Collections
Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2023 2:10 am
by cait001
Re: Niche Collections
Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2023 2:24 pm
by pennymachines
Re: Niche Collections
Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2023 8:07 pm
by cait001
Thank you! I will add those to the post later this weekend.
I thought a bit about the specific criteria I wanted to use and I decided to not list machines where the ball is launched via a spiral, so that first one, the BM Co All Winners, wouldn't meet my criteria, but the other 2 do as it's the spiral itself that is the whole of the gameplay.
Do you know when that BMCo All Winners is from? It seems nearly identical to a Japanese patent document I have.
Re: Niche Collections
Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2023 8:38 am
by coppinpr
I don't see why the BM Co doesn't fit in? I can see the "Whirl Wind" above is a spiral machine because the spiral decides the winner but the "All Winners" is a standard allwin with one extra set of rails. In fact, the "Chip or Bust" has the same number of rails as the "All Winners".
Re: Niche Collections
Posted: Sat Oct 21, 2023 2:45 pm
by pennymachines
I'm also a bit confused about the criteria.
All positions of the gallery on All Winners, as the name suggests, are winners. You only lose if you miss the gallery, so you have a very good chance. The catch is, you only get your penny back.
I
think these metal backed BM Co's may date from the 1920s, a few years before the cloth-backed 1930s games like Pin-Royal, but it's just a hunch.
Play on these games is quite different from other allwins, creating an illusion that the ball speeds up as it traverses the more-or-less Archimedean spiral. This is because as it approaches the centre successive turnings are shorter. The nearer a win target is placed to the end, the harder it becomes to achieve. On Pilwin Play it's immediately before the end; on Chip or Bust, its one turn before the end.
Re: Niche Collections
Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2023 12:16 am
by cait001
coppinpr wrote: ↑Fri Oct 20, 2023 8:38 am
I don't see why the BM Co doesn't fit in? I can see the "Whirl Wind" above is a spiral machine because the spiral decides the winner but the "All Winners" is a standard allwin with one extra set of rails. In fact, the "Chip or Bust" has the same number of rails as the "All Winners".
the difference is that All Winners launches the ball in to a pin field, and the other 2 have the ball purely within the spiral and rely on the action of the spiral exclusively. No launching. I didn't include any regular allwins in the post.
Re: Niche Collections
Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2023 7:45 am
by brigham
Spiral games fit into the 'Can't win on them' category.
I'll be visiting an arcade at Scarborough tomorrow, which has one. I'll report back if I get a win!
Wonders Boomerang also fits this category.
Re: Niche Collections
Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2023 12:51 pm
by pennymachines
cait001 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 12:16 am
...the difference is that All Winners launches the ball in to a pin field, and the other 2 have the ball purely within the spiral and rely on the action of the spiral exclusively.
OK, that makes sense.
brigham wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 7:45 am
Spiral games fit into the 'Can't win on them' category.
I'll be visiting an arcade at Scarborough tomorrow, which has one. I'll report back if I get a win!
Wonders Boomerang also fits this category.
There's a knack to
Boomerang - keep it short and, true to its name, the ball keeps returning to the striker for another try. Shoot it too hard and you lose fast.
I've found no strategy on Wonders
Spin-A-Win. If the paddles are in the right position you can hit the central ball return hole quite easily, but that's all.
Re: Niche Collections
Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2023 11:16 pm
by pennymachines
Another spiral game:
Teifun, 1907
Re: Niche Collections
Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2024 10:30 pm
by cait001
Niche Mechanisms 007: basketball ball-popping
https://pinballnovice.blogspot.com/2024 ... -ball.html
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