Bryans Locks

[cheeky]

I have just examined a Bullion numbered 202 and an early allwin. Both have the same type of lock shown on the left of Bryansjim's photo (shown above)

Are there any early Bryans 40's machine's out there? Did they use the small Yale type locks?

[pennymachines]

Looking at an early version side-opening Payramid, I see a small brass lock of the type shown previously, but without a maker's name. Clearly this design was common and manufactured by Yale, Lowe & Fletcher and several other companies and Bryans would have bought in whatever was best priced at the time.

The square flanged design now supplied by Lowe & Fletcher is the modern equivalent. They're available in three barrel lengths and can usually be fitted using the original screw holes. The downside is they're zinc plated, not brass and the wider flanges obstruct on some machines.

[cheeky]

Do you mean the 'type shown previously' as in the Yale or the L&F?

[pennymachines]

Yale. The company was founded in Stamford, Connecticut, USA. See A Gazetteer of Lock and Key Makers for details and their 1865 pin tumbler lock patent.

See Lowe & Fletcher 7 lever rim locks for the modern versions (actually available in 4 barrel lengths I think).

[cheeky]

Thank you Bryansjim, Bryans Fan and Pennymachines.

All your info has been really helpful and interesting. I now need to find someone with a spare lock!

Best wishes to all C!

[bryansjim]

Incidently there is a Lowe & fletcher lock on ebay at the moment. Ebay no. 7630094837 its the short barrel type, worth a look.
Regards Jim.

[cheeky]

Almost right but not quite. I need that 1/2 inch extension, if you know what I mean?

[ged8]

Topic merged- Site Admin.

I need your help forum. I have a Bryan’s Elevenses with a missing key on the cash draw, so I need to replace the lock. The lock has Yale etched on it, but is this the correct lock ? The lock on the main door uses a flat type key which does look original. So the question is do I get another Yale lock or a flat type key lock?
Thanks.

[arrgee]

Welcome ged8 to the Forum. Most Bryans machines I have seen used the Yale cam lock on the doors with the smaller 'flat key' locks on the cash door drawers (although there are variants to this). I would always try to keep it that way when replacing locks, unless the hole for the original flat key type lock has been bored out to receive a larger diameter lock.

[ged8]

Thanks for the welcome, and thanks for the advice. What I have is like your photo, but in the reverse, Yale for the cash box and the flat key lock ( Union) for the door. It just looks wrong the Yale, but if that’s how it should be, so be it.