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Re: Top Tips for Newcomers

Postby badpenny » Fri Sep 06, 2013 6:40 pm

3 in 1 is fine :cool:

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Re: Top Tips for Newcomers

Postby glittering-prize67 » Fri Feb 14, 2014 11:14 am

Most of what I know has already been suggested, but here is one: If you buy an old e/m machine, no matter where it's from, don't be tempted to rush home and plug it in (if you value your house that is). Most of these are bodged and simply lethal. Open up the machine and check the wiring. Check the earthing etc., and when satisfied it won't blow up, try it, but be ready to turn it off again quickly. I never even try a machine now till I have been through it. :oops:

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Re: Top Tips for Newcomers

Postby slotsoffun » Fri Feb 14, 2014 8:23 pm

I would agree with you. The early electrics in these old machines leave a lot to be desired. And even more so now, as well as the electrics being old and components not as they should be when made years ago, but also, over the 40 or more years other people have messed about with wires, common things I've come across have been the earth leads broken inside, or simply removed. And fuses that have blown (for a reason!!!) now has either thick wire or foil wedged in the holder. I've seen people get a huge shock on some of the early Sega bandits, which is why I always dump the electrics, especially if I know kids are gonna be playing these.
Just my experience.

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Re: FAQs Newcomers

Postby chris rideout » Sat Apr 26, 2014 3:22 pm

coppinpr wrote:... Sega Continental (the heaviest) must weigh 60kg. Take a trolley if possible; always remove the mech and cash tray and back door (if there is one) to carry the machine.
If I had to move machines frequently, I would invest in a sack truck with a wind-up base. It works like a fork lift truck. You can then slide the machine off/on its stand to/from the sack truck in the high position and move the machine with the base in the low position. These sack trucks are expensive but cheaper than losing pay when you are in hospital for a couple of weeks with your foot in plaster and a damaged knee cap!

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Re: Top Tips for Newcomers

Postby malcymal » Sun Jun 01, 2014 7:28 pm

Handle bandit mechanisms carefully when outside of the case. If they topple over and crash on to the reel bundle you will have terrible problems realigning them circular. (Advice given from experience, due to my Sega Windsor mech topping backwards whilst trying to clear a jam in coin slides from underneath the base plate). :NBG:

Second advice. If your reel mech has got squished, remove each reel (remembering their order), place flat on some hardboard. Where reel is not flush with board, set about gently reshaping by hand on opposite sections of where reel is distorted; this takes some practice and patience. Keep doing this until reel can lie as flat as possible. When reels are back in machine, if they are oscillating too much, take reels out and repeat the process again on the offending reel. !THUMBS!

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Re: Top Tips for Newcomers

Postby cheeky » Wed Nov 12, 2014 3:38 pm

I accurately weighed a Sega Continental and it weighed exactly 60Kg. !OMFG!

I carried it from the car to the Post Office. About 100 feet and it nearly killed me!!!!

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Re: Top Tips for Newcomers

Postby chris rideout » Fri Nov 14, 2014 8:52 pm

Cheeky wrote:I accurately weighed a Sega Continental and it weighed exactly 60Kg. !OMFG!

I carried it from the car to the Post Office. About 100 feet and it nearly killed me!!!!
I recall someone being told that a machine was: "Not very heavy. Trust me".
After suffering like you, he had a pain down below and saw a doctor.
afterwards he was asked what treatment he received, and he replied: "Trussed me!"

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Re: Top Tips for Newcomers

Postby badpenny » Tue Jul 05, 2016 8:23 pm

I was sure we had one on here about stopping a three reeler in order to force a win, but I can't find it.
Hence this post, I reckon it's worth risking a duplication as it's an essential "know how"

Imagine you want to check the payouts on a bandit, because .....
* You're about to buy it and want to check it out.
* You think it might have failed while you were ploughing coins into it.
* Checking for coin jams within the slides.
Plus numerous other reasons.

You don't have to remove the mechanism from the case, although doing so does give you access to all other working parts as well.
It doesn't matter if your machine is Mills/Sega, Jennings or Pace with a back door or an Aussie with a front door, basically you're going to stop the cycle by stopping the fan clock.

The fan clock is at the back of the mechanism and spins during the complete cycle, it governs the stopping of the different parts of the cycle.
The cycle consists of the reels being spun and then stopped one reel at a time, the first clunk which is the vertical fingers being released to check for a winning combination (they simultaneously move the horizontal fingers below that prepare the right slides for paying out.) And the final clunk which is the group of slides being released.

In order to force a win you are going to stall the fan clock immediately after the handle is pulled, it must be done before the first reel is stopped. I recommend putting a duster or paper towel into the blades of the fan ( in order not to damage it).
If you get it right the three reels will continue to spin until they slowly stop.
Now turn the reels by hand to obtain the winning line you require and allow the fan clock to run down.

You have now forced a win.
Most of us when buying a bandit will check it's accuracy at play by doing this.

BP

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Re: Top Tips for Newcomers

Postby malcymal » Fri Sep 28, 2018 7:36 am

I am always guarded on ebay for these straplines:-
"Was working when last used but haven't tested in a while." - Just go plug the damn thing in then or try it; if the plug has been cut off, that can be a clue to its electrical state, e.g. it's condemned unsafe.
"Bought this to restore but other projects have got in the way." - Can mean they attempted it but major issues and COST got it in the way, so gave up.
"We lost the keys, and machine cannot be opened but should be easy to replace locks/keys on ebay." - Yes, but if it's locked, you can't get the lock out. Drilling an ACE lock is like drilling a diamond. In certain cases, locksmiths can make a key to work the lock on a flat regular key/lock, or pick it.


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