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Re: What bandit to restore?

Postby brianh » Wed Nov 14, 2018 12:49 pm

Thanks again coppinpr, for your continued help and advice. I will spend a few days logging in the results and post again when I have enough stats to make sense. Currently it has paid out correctly a few times such as the cherry on first reel paying 2, but randomly on others, including occasionally 1 or 3 coins. Will keep logging but meanwhile pics of payout chart and reels attached in case this throws up any clues.
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Re: What bandit to restore?

Postby badpenny » Wed Nov 14, 2018 3:30 pm

Trying to log and identify accurate pay outs against inaccurate ones simply by playing it and leaving the outcomes to chance seems the long way to do it and a bit hap hazard.
You need to first check the pay out discs for blanked off holes, and check the winning combinations for holes lining up that the vertical fingers can access.
That will not only confirm if the winning lines are accessible but highlight any combinations that should never pay out but do, thus giving a clue as to any reel strips that have been refitted badly.

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Re: What bandit to restore?

Postby brianh » Wed Nov 14, 2018 7:36 pm

You need to first check the pay out discs for blanked off holes, and check the winning combinations for holes lining up that the vertical fingers can access.
I feel, BP, you underestimate my naivity on all matters bandit related, not least the terminology !PUZZLED! Whilst I am happy to dismantle an Allwin and reassemble it (sometimes even in the right order!) bandits are a whole new ball game (coin game?) to me so methinks a trip to the Coventry auction beckons where I can maybe throw myself on the mercy of a member who can show me the internal mysteries of these magic machines in the flesh, so to speak. :didact:

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Re: What bandit to restore?

Postby badpenny » Wed Nov 14, 2018 7:39 pm

brianh wrote:
Wed Nov 14, 2018 7:36 pm
methinks a trip to the Coventry auction beckons where I can maybe throw myself on the mercy of a member who can show me the internal mysteries of these magic machines in the flesh, so to speak. :didact:


An excellent suggestion, I'm the good looking one sporting the knowledgeable air of confidence.
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Re: What bandit to restore?

Postby coppinpr » Wed Nov 14, 2018 9:10 pm

If, as you say, you really are new to bandits you probably don't know the best way to log and check payouts. It's in the hint and tips section but basically this is what to do:

This is best observed with the mech OUT of the case, although that will make it harder to depress the arm that fires the mech.

At the back of the mech is a clockwork fan which winds up as you pull the handle and unwinds as the reels spin. This controls the timing of every part of the cycle.
Put a coin in the machine;
Depress the handle all the way to make the reels spin;
As soon as the reels start to spin throw a cloth/duster into the fan from the rear - this simply stops the fins from turning. As long as you leave the cloth in place the reels will turn freely by hand, this gives you the chance to do several checks.
You can line up the reels quickly by hand and see if the holes on the large payout discs on the right line up ready for the fingers to shoot through. You can also line up a payout so it reads correct from the front then, holding the reels in place by hand, remove the cloth and let the cycle run its course. You will be able to see if the fingers shoot through the holes and what the machine pays for that combination.
Try not to put your fingers into the mech while it's running - it pinches...hard. :shock:

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Re: What bandit to restore?

Postby coppinpr » Wed Nov 14, 2018 9:25 pm

I believe this machine is runing on old shillings/early 5p coin and should have just 4 payout slides

1 = 2 coin slide
2 = 4 coin slides
1 =jackpot slide

is that the case ?

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Re: What bandit to restore?

Postby brigham » Thu Nov 15, 2018 9:34 am

Looks to me as if it pays 2-4-6-8-10 PLUS the Jackpot, which is 5x2 plus jp.
A bit more complicated, but not insurmountable.

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Re: What bandit to restore?

Postby brianh » Thu Nov 15, 2018 10:47 am

coppinpr wrote:
Wed Nov 14, 2018 9:25 pm
I believe this machine is runing on old shillings/early 5p coin and should have just 4 payout slides

1 = 2 coin slide
2 = 4 coin slides
1 =jackpot slide

is that the case ?
Yes, running on shillings which I have a pile of. Looks like 6 payout slides if I'm looking at this correctly ? but then on the last (incorrect) payout which was lemon-cherry-lemon it paid out 2 coins but both of bottom 2 slides activated! !PUZZLED!
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Re: What bandit to restore?

Postby coppinpr » Thu Nov 15, 2018 6:36 pm

OK, I'm getting confused (help me out here BP) - the slides can't pay 1 coin each, you couldn't get your payouts that way.

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Re: What bandit to restore?

Postby badpenny » Thu Nov 15, 2018 7:37 pm

I hadn't been following this one too far as it seems it was confusing enough without me sticking my whore in.
Is it possible ……..
The original denomination is so unusual when playing it on something thicker it miss pays?
The OP hasn't enough coins to weigh the stack down so when the slides fire they jump up?
Is it the wrong coin entirely, look at the diameter on the pay out tube?
How many fingers both vertical and horizontal are there?
Do they match?
How many pairs of Bri-nylon socks does the OP own, do they match?

It sounds cobbled, so I guess most of us would be wanting to check the basics wouldn't we, like pay out discs, slugs, fingers blah blah?However the jargon is confusing so if he does turn up at Coventry (while you're slumming it cruising The Indian Oceon) we can give him a quick run through
(eh? !!/\!!)

Unless TF has other ideas?

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