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Re: What bandit to restore?

Postby coppinpr » Fri Jan 04, 2019 11:33 am

We had a machine on here not long ago where the payout card told you what the "Mystery" wins were. !PUZZLED!

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Re: What bandit to restore?

Postby sutton » Sat Jan 05, 2019 7:47 am

You could restore this one.
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Re: What bandit to restore?

Postby aristomatic » Sat Jan 05, 2019 10:49 am

Just needs a handle and a 6d badge..?

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Re: What bandit to restore?

Postby brigham » Sat Jan 05, 2019 11:09 am

...And the words 'SEGA BELL' taking off, so you can sell it as a MILLS hi-top.

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Re: What bandit to restore?

Postby badpenny » Sat Jan 05, 2019 11:54 am

In the days of the Gold Pages I travelled half way across the country to view worse. :NBG:

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Re: What bandit to restore?

Postby treefrog » Sat Jan 05, 2019 1:14 pm

Les, offer for £50 still stands :lol:

I have only bought one Hi Top worse, everyone had a good laugh at my expense, which I deserved, almost 10 years ago... only a few bits were useful and broke up...

Weather beaten ebay Hi Top
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Re: What bandit to restore?

Postby brianh » Fri Jan 25, 2019 1:21 pm

Sorry to be a pain again but would appreciate your advice on one final point on the Jubilee Collossus please. Following all your help on this one I have got all the payouts working perfectly with just one exception and that is regarding the jackpots.

Using your suggestions, I've stopped the fan so I can move the reels to check payouts and all are fine except for the two jackpot rows which each pay out exactly 12 coins from the right hand coin tube, whereas the machine says the max payout for jackpot is 100 (which, unless I'm being even thicker than normal, should presumably come from the two left hand tubes, both of which are half full?) !PUZZLED!

What triggers the payout from the jackpot tubes and how do I adjust it to pay out correctly?
Many thanks for a so helpful site !THUMBS!
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Re: What bandit to restore?

Postby coppinpr » Fri Jan 25, 2019 5:18 pm

These jackpots are a little odd, although they don't look like a Mills or Jennings jackpot with their square coin jackpot hopper, I believe your machine works in the same way. Firstly it won't always pay 100 coins, it will pay whatever is in the jackpot tubes (or tube) plus 12 up to a max of 100. I've never actually seen one of these so I'm making assumptions.

It says on it "jackpot 100 max". The jackpot tubes appear to fill from coins passing on their way to the cash box. I can't see if you have a single JP where both tubes dump on a JP or two separate JP's (although I think this second option may be the case). If each tube holds 100 (or possibly 90) coins when full, then one JP will pay, leaving the other as a reserve jp to payout while the first one re fills.

Now as to what makes it pay, show us a close up of the jp and a close up of the slides. If this is a purely mechanical machine there will be a separate slide for the jackpot. This will have a raised knob or bar that releases the jp tube as it shoots in on a win. The next play after a jp win will close the jp tube and, possibly, switch the JP to the other tube ready for next time.

If on the other hand this is a part electric machine, it might fire the JP from a switch that closes when a JP win comes up and completes a circuit to a solenoid that pulls in and releases the coins in the JP tube. The next play would reset the switch and the JP would close as the solenoid springs back as the power dies.

Might have got this ALL wrong, need photos as have never had one of these. :o

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Re: What bandit to restore?

Postby brianh » Fri Jan 25, 2019 6:14 pm

OK - thanks coppinpr - will take a few close up pics but you've given me a few ideas to look at first (like I need to check one of the jackpot tubes isn't jammed and stopping full payout) so will get back tomorrow with pics after I've checked it out more.............Brian

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Re: What bandit to restore?

Postby brianh » Fri Jan 25, 2019 11:23 pm

A few pics attached in case they help. As I see it the sequence is that the coins firstly drop into the single right hand tube. When it is full they overflow down a shute into the first of the left hand jackpot tubes then, when that is full, overflow into a further tube (behind the 2 left hand tubes) that leads to the cash drawer. The second left hand tube is not affected by any coin overflow so presumably remains loaded until triggered? So far, all the payouts, including the "jackpot" ones which pay out 12, have come from the right hand tube.

So are you saying, coppinpr, that the jackpot should pay out 12 coins from the main tube then also trigger the first jackpot tube? Currently it simply pays out 12 from main tube then stops.

I see (as in pic) the raised knob on the top payout slide which, when top slide is activated, pushes the bar at the base of the jackpot tubes but that should, if I understand it correctly, then move the cover below the jackpot tubes (3rd pic) opening it up to release the coins? Does that make sense? As that is not happening what should I look at to help it along? I will meanwhile empty the jackpot tubes completely and refill just in case it's simply a coin jamming the payout somewhere. Machine is, incidentally, purely mechanical.

Sorry for so many questions (and apols if they are in ignorance!) but it's a lovely machine for my first bandit and I'm nearly there so determined to solve the last problem |/XX\|
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