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Hi from new Allwin collector

Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2019 9:03 pm
by pauljt71
Hi folks,
I am based in Nottinghamshire and have just purchased my first machines.

Looking for resources with specs information and advice about payout adjustments and restoring.

I have an Elevens with matching numbers from 1956 and a Pilwin 1956.

Re: Hi from new Allwin collector

Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2019 9:32 pm
by treefrog
Hello there and welcome,

Sounds like some nice first machines. Perhaps provide some info on the payout info you are after, are they complete etc. Also pictures will help people advise.....

TF

Re: Hi from new Allwin collector

Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2019 9:11 am
by brigham
Good place to start, the Elevenses.
Bryan's machines have all the Operator's Adjustments marked in red. You can generally work them all out.
Pilwin is a good example of Bryan's quirkiness. This one manufacturer alone can provide an extensive and varied collection, although the more arcane models fetch alarmingly high prices.

Re: Hi from new Allwin collector

Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2019 12:48 pm
by moonriver
arcane! that's a good word rarely used

Re: Hi from new Allwin collector

Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2019 9:40 pm
by pauljt71
Thanks for the welcome. I am so excited to find this forum. I have already learned so much in just 24 hours from checking the various threads for my machines.

I also have a Lucky Twelve that I think is an Oliver Whales although there is no name on the back flash. It is original and warped like lots of others I have read about here. Can someone confirm if it is a Whales as the Parker cabinets look similar?

Re: Hi from new Allwin collector

Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2019 10:07 pm
by treefrog
Yes, it is Olly Whales.....someone has taken the time to create a image of backflash and top flash in resources if you choose to change, although if not affecting play worth keeping the original.. !!

There are a few threads talking about flattening the originals, which may be possible.

The Lucky Twelve flash & topflash

Forgot to add, it looks like the machine maybe has been changed to another coin, maybe new penny, with the replaced coin entry. If so, it can be changed to the old penny with small changes depending on what has been done to the coin chute and payout.....or leave as is if happy.

Re: Hi from new Allwin collector

Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2019 10:20 pm
by pauljt71
Many thanks Tree Frog. It has a broken spring on the payout slide. Having a look tomorrow to see if I can get it going again. 😀

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treefrog wrote:
Thu Nov 07, 2019 10:07 pm
...it looks like the machine maybe has been changed to another coin
Yes it plays on the new 1p. My dilemma is do I convert back to old penny or keep on new 1p? What’s the general opinion on this. I intend putting the machines back into use as part of my vintage entertainment business offering a display of these as added attractions. After all, they were designed to be played. 😀

Re: Hi from new Allwin collector

Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2019 7:54 am
by coppinpr
Others, like JC, know more than I do but my guess is you might be better changing them back to 1d if you intend to use them. The gaming commission can be very picky about "gambling machines" I know. I know play a penny to perhaps win a penny but the gov won't see it that way. Best to play safe. JC will advise you I'm sure. :cool:

Re: Hi from new Allwin collector

Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2019 9:04 am
by brigham
It needs to be returned to the old penny immediately.
Dilemma solved!

Re: Hi from new Allwin collector

Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2019 9:22 am
by pauljt71
Is this for legal reasons or purely originality reasons? I would prefer original ones. I found a link on line to the licensing query and these are games of skill, so apparently don’t need a license now?