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Maybe these pictures of one of my machines may help. Bradwin patent, manufactured by Oliver Whales.

fourfive wrote:Bradwin patent, manufactured by Oliver Whales.

Aha! Whales made allwins under licence to Bradley. Very interesting. That answers YONTY's first question, "What is it?" - an Allwin De Luxe (just as it says on the label) made by Oliver Whales and designed by Bradley.

Thanks for everything so far. I enclose a photo of the works if it helps. I am wondering if my works have been transplanted into a later hinged case as I can see no machines with a hinged case with the payout slot where mine is. What is the difference in size between the two machines (hinged or not)?

Actually the Ballwin has hinges and payout in the same place. When I first saw your game on eBay, I suspected it might be a replaced cabinet but now I'm leaning towards original. There are significant variations in all four: Ballwin, Baby Bradwin, Minor and Allwin De Luxe.

Here is a picture of the inside of the Whales/Bradley allwin.

Before I start to make one, I wonder if anyone has a spare payout chute to suit my machine? approx 2"x1" plus surround at the front.

Here are a few pictures of the payout chute.

The dimensions of the Allwin Minor machine are as follows:
height 21.5"
width 14.5"
depth 6.5"

The dimensions of the payout chute are:
length 4"
width 2"

Thank you very much fourfive, that is going to be most helpful.

Take a look: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 500wt_1154

It's a Ballwin Deluxe on Ebay-US.

It starts a 99 cents.

J Peterson
Your American Spotter

Thought I would add this one on eBay where the seller in Mablethorpe is on another planet asking a grand for barn find machines. The below Bradwin looks the most interesting and complete and from this thread assume this is a tiny Allwin, possibly one of the smallest production machines of its type. Looks like Olly Whales made a version and cannot see the one PM points to in the museum....

Nice little thing, over-priced in my opinion, but cute...

https://ebay.co.uk/itm/Bradley-allwin-F ... SwdoZacrAV

I don't think the £1,000 price is for real. It's an attempt to get you to call the number or visit the website shown in the second photo so the seller can avoid Ebay costs.

treefrog wrote: ↑Thu Feb 01, 2018 11:04 amcannot see the one PM points to in the museum....

The image is too small for the new Museum...

Dealt with this seller few years back, very simple transaction on a large parcel of bandits.

As in the trade he comes across all manner of less common items...................lucky chap!

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1930-s-1940- ... SwZR9acrFp

I have also made contact, but not bought as prices were unrealistic to me. Being in the trade he knows value and then adds very handsome profit I guess... Cannot blame them, but as with all people who try, I guess why not if you get a bite.....

Had a Bolands bandit recently for sale and has a pile of Allwins not for sale. Maybe from the same source as the current lot as they were on 2p like one of the other Allwins currently listed.

Anyway Mr PM a better picture for the museum......that other one you showed has a serious bling issue

Aristo, did you buy the machines, anything nice?

Last time I contacted him was to advise a few errors on his listing on an old US soda machine he had listed on ebay maybe a year back or so.

As I said, I bought the parcel of bandits a few years back, 15-20 machines or so. They were mostly Aristocrats, rough looking but all complete & though rough to look at, most had original fruit reels & original award cards in great condition. He had another parcel of lightups & hitops he sold to someone else.

Have spoken to him a few times since when he's offered other items for sale. Very easy going to talk to, but as in the trade you're unlikely to get a bargain but he was very fair when we dealt on the parcel of bandits.

I suspect he sometimes gets offered a number of vintage items in lieu of an outstanding trade invoice......!

Is it just me or does that Boland bandit front above almost look like a deliberate faux tortoiseshell effect? Though I imagine it was purely accidental and actually the over abuse of a heat gun when removing old paint!?

I also fell for the artful mottling which appears on closer inspection to be the work of a laminate-stripping heat gun!
Anyway, as a classic Tom Boland conversion I stuck it in the Museum.

I take your point about the bling on that Baby Bradwin TF.

Topic merged - Site Admin.

A machine in North America!
Should I buy this? Don't know anything about this model, if it's just a knock-off, etc.
https://www.ebay.ca/itm/283539986782?_t ... .S1.R3.TR3

Looks good to me.
Whether you should buy it is another matter...

cait001 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 13, 2019 5:23 pm Don't know anything about this model...

See posts now merged above.

I spoke too soon... Looking more closely - what's with the weird ball track? Have to say - that doesn't look right. And the hinges are wrong and why the gap between the top of the door and the cabinet? Oh dear...