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Ball bearing sizes

Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 7:53 pm
by 13rebel
Can anyone make a definitive list of ball bearing sizes for different makes of allwins? It may come in handy.

Re: ball bearings

Posted: Sun May 13, 2012 11:05 am
by treefrog
This seemed like a good idea, but has yet started (mind you it could end up a very long list, unless things like Bryans are all similar and Wonders etc).... I noticed under the Parts section PM is selling various sizes, I guess it is a case of matching the machines to the numbers or of course trial and error... Anyone know what a Giant Wonders uses?

So to start and trawling this site the sizes and answers are (info trawled from the site)
A = 3/4"

B = 14mm
R&W "Whats my line"

C = 9/16"
S&L Fireworks

D = 1/2"
Payramid

E = 12mm

F = 29/64

G = 15/32"

H = 13/32"

I = 5/32"

Re: ball bearings

Posted: Mon May 14, 2012 10:42 am
by JC
An interesting topic, which in my experience doesn't appear to be an exact science. 1/2" balls for Bryans and BMCo allwins seem to be a fairly safe bet - it's generally considered that 9/16" is the correct size for most other makes. However, I have found a good number of exceptions over the years. For instance, I once had a Hat Trick which came with half a dozen balls (all different sizes) when I acquired it. I discarded them all and popped in a new 9/16" ball............could I get it to work? Not a chance. In the end, I had to use a 13mm ball. I also have a Parkers allwin (an original with Saxony type ball release), again, it won't work with a 9/16" ball.
I wonder whether the 14mm stated above for R&W column-fill allwins is correct, as it does seem unlikely that a British machine of 50+ years would have been designed to use metric sized balls. Can anyone confirm? The ball size is of course quite critical in these machines, because if the balls are too small, the final ball in a column won't drop back and trigger the payout.

Re: ball bearings

Posted: Tue May 15, 2012 11:03 am
by arrgee
What was the size of the monster ball in Steer-a-Ball? :!?!:

Re: ball bearings

Posted: Tue May 15, 2012 7:00 pm
by badpenny
What about The Policeman's Ball?

Re: ball bearings

Posted: Tue May 15, 2012 7:37 pm
by ilovemyjukebox
I have a "What's My Line" and changed the ball bearings 14mm when I bought her. She came with a mish mash of different sized balls some got stuck in the channels.
Unfortunately I have the problem whereby the balls don't allign correctly all the time and I sometimes have to resort to giving the glass a tap to trigger the payout.
Especially when there a six balls lined up. I'd be very interested in knowing the correct size.

Dave

Re: ball bearings

Posted: Wed May 16, 2012 12:17 am
by JC
Dave, I suspect the correct size is 9/16". As I stated above, this is generally the correct size for most allwins............er, except it doesn't always work. !PUZZLED!

Fill 'Em Up, Many Happy Returns - ball sizes please?

Posted: Thu May 28, 2015 5:52 pm
by pennymad
Hi,
Does anyone know the correct size for the balls please on the Fill 'Em Up, Many Happy Returns or What's My Line? Thanks in advance for any help given.

Re: Fill um up,many happy returns BALL SIZES PLEASE?

Posted: Thu May 28, 2015 6:01 pm
by treefrog
Shame,

Started a thread on this topic 5 years ago now and was trying to get everyone to fill over time as a useful resource, it only lasted a few posts. Anyway a Multi Ball answer was there, option B 14mm

Ball bearings

Re: Fill um up,many happy returns BALL SIZES PLEASE?

Posted: Thu May 28, 2015 7:22 pm
by pennymad
Thanks a lot. I wonder what the actual old size was? But modern day size is good for me!