Payramid - Original or Later Version? Your View Please!

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arrgee
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And so back to the Payramid......................

I have a copy of the original 1930s patent for the Payramid, (great reading for insomnia) but here is a question, does one exist for the 1960s version? I suspect not as this was an improvement upon an existing piece of intelectual copyright. I have searched the Patent Archives without success, I found the original but no subsequent patent for the 1960s version.

Anyone out there have any knowledge of one existing?
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Hooray!!!!

Finally got the Payramid. Its the 60s model, which is fine. It works great, and the mechanism is outstanding. Just love all the levers, springs and cogs that make it work. When researching this particular model, I was surprised by the lack of images and details about, what is considered by many Bryans collectors, one of his finest creations!
I can feel another video coming on, I've got a days holiday coming up soon, time to film the Payramid and its workings!!

Curious on how the jackpot re-fill slide should operate. For those who own this machine, will know there's a metal plate that sticks out to cause pennies to slide into the jackpot window on the front. Mine is missing a spring I think, should this be a loose or tight spring, and should the plate be loose on its pivot point as mine's stiff (no jokes!!!), should it flap up and down freely? Any pictures of your flapper much appreciated (that's flapper, and not slapper!!!!) :lol:

thanks
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Hi Mark, the jackpot chute should rotate easily, the spring is of average tension, enough to resist at least one coin tipping the chute and hence divert it into the jackpot window, but not so strong as it will not allow the tray to rotate when a few coins are on it, thus tipping the coins into the cash box below. It has always seemed a bit hit-and-miss to me and incongruous when compared to the rest of the innovative workings of the machine.

Look forward to the video

will pm you

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Congratulations markymark on acquiring one of the greatest mechanical slots. I'm sure it will bring you and your family years of pleasure. !!YIPPEE!!
Arrgee wrote:I have a copy of the original 1930s patent for the Payramid, (great reading for insomnia) but here is a question, does one exist for the 1960s version?
No, as you surmise, it was insufficiently novel or, more to the point, already covered by the original patent, so why waste time, money and effort? (I often ask myself that) !PUZZLED!

I think there were several reasons for the major redesign: to reduce manufacturing costs by replacing all the internal castings (that had to be bought in) with fabricated parts; to introduce a "new-improved" model
of a successful game to stimulate sales; and as a response to operator feedback for a fully front opening game with lower locking cashbox (operators must have hated the awkward side opening system on the early Payramid).

As far as I'm aware, the mechanisms are equally efficient, but I recall John Carter saying the later version was much more successful in attracting play - presumably because of its greater height and prepossessing appearance.
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