Shefras Crackerjack & BMCo Smithy

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Shefras Crackerjack & BMCo Smithy

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Hi Guys - As the self proclaimed "master" on the German machines I am now seeking help with a Crackerjack Allwin. I bought this from a Dutch Collector and was "working" when bought - you know the story! - It is missing the whole selector mech from the centre rear, will work but only pays out the 2d , no 4d or 6d payout.. I had a similar Crackerjack which had a sort of rotor with numbers and a gear and pawl arrangement - in the boss of the gear wheel was a series of holes into which went the rod from the right ( correct me if I'm wrong) - these lined up with the rod when in a win position. there was a similar machine sold on ebay a month or so ago, anyone know about it as I would like pics so I could make the necessary parts unless someone has one I could copy ? - As they say "I've started so I'll finish " so I would like to get this sorted pretty quickly - Please someone help this 74 yrs old frustrated engineer .. Take care - Harold E.
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Re: Crackerjack Allwin Selection Mechanism

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Hi Harold :D ,
I don't know much about the Crackerjack allwin but this photo might be of help !PUZZLED!
good luck Stuart.
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Re: Crackerjack Allwin Selection Mechanism

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Hi Stuart - That's my boy ! Clearer now, just mystified how the levers operate under the drum - I could make the parts but sometimes you are on the wrong track, wish I just had one to copy BUT at least I have a good idea . My other one years ago was a Crackerjack De Luxe and it had a large vertical disc with numbers whereas this has the horizontal drum which I have never seen before ... spending too much time on my lovely German machines I guess ?? - Many thanks for your trouble - Harold
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Re: Crackerjack Allwin Selection Mechanism

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Hi Harold,

The only one I can lay my hands on at the moment is similar I think to the "De Luxe" you mentioned, and therefore probably of no help. But here it is anyway. I'm sure someone reading this must have the standard version.
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Re: Crackerjack Allwin Selection Mechanism

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have you finished that machine yet harold?? :roll:
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Here's One We Made Earlier

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Copied from One we made earlier - Site Admin.

Robert Rowland wrote a very interesting and informative piece for issue 53, in which he discussed the two different versions of Extrawin and Crackerjack, both machines by Amusement Machine Mart.
Here are the pictures:
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Detail of the earlier version of Extrawin.
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Mechanism of the earlier version of Crackerjack.
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Mechanism of the later version of Crackerjack.
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Smithy & Crackerjack - new additions

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Hi,
Help once again much appreciated. Never had an interest before in wall machines, always been more bandits, but decided to dip my toes in this collectable minefield. Anyway, after a 500 mile round trip I arrived home with these two pieces which I am delighted with. Both work well but, as is evident, the top flash is missing from Crackerjack and am not 100% sure about the knob on left. My question is, where would I begin to search for the top window or is it possible to make one? If so, what does it look like?
Thanks again in advance for any advice.
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Re: new additions

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If you access the "Search" facility at the top of this page and look for crackerjack you'll come up with a few previous threads that include your machine there are comments on the case furniture used and a video also.

Your "The Smithy" is probably one of the reproductions made some years back. Others more aware may be more exact on that.

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Re: Smithy & Crackerjack - new additions

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As BP says, your Smithy was made a few years ago by a collector based in Banbury. It's quite an accurate copy of the British Manufacturing Co. Gretna-Green Smithy wall machine (see example here in the Museum).

I've put a cleaned-up scan of the Crackejack in Resources. These fragile screen printed glasses are often missing. The print is on the reverse of the glass which is cut to fit into a recess. They're designed to be back lit if desired (but rarely are).
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Re: Smithy & Crackerjack - new additions

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Thanks for info. Never gave it a thought when I bought them that Smithy might be a copy. Quite happy with purchase nonetheless, as it is still pleasing to the eye and, although on closer inspection there are a few tell tale signs, it still has an aged look and feel about it. When would you suggest this was made and is it a fairly common thing to look out for when buying these machines?
Regarding Crackerjack, how do I go about turning image in resources into print for machine :!?!:
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