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Manhattan one armed bandit

Postby masterknowitall » Tue Feb 28, 2006 5:30 pm

I sure hope someone can help me. I have a very old slot machine made by Manhattan. Nobody seems to know anything about this manufacturer.
The machine I have was brought to the US in the late '60s and was fairly old at that time. It is a 3 wheel machine, it has a Mad Magazine motif which appears to be original (yes, I know Mad Magazine is a US magazine). The coin slot has a "1p" on it, which is one of the reasons I believe it to be a product of the UK. I have looked at many sites on the web to no avail. I sure hope someone can/will help. I don't have an image available, but I will try to post one if requested. Thanks.

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Postby cheeky » Tue Feb 28, 2006 7:31 pm

Have you a picture?

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Postby masterknowitall » Tue Feb 28, 2006 9:06 pm

Thanks for the response. I will try to have pictures tomorrow.

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Images of Manhattan slot machine

Postby masterknowitall » Tue Mar 07, 2006 12:50 am

I'm very sorry it took so long to send these images. I've had several computer problems which prevented me from posting them. I really hope that someone may know something about Manhattan as I've tried for a long time to find information before I found this site. Thanks in advance.
Ps apparently my image file size is too large. I will attempt another image on another post.
slot machine 014.JPG

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second image of Manhattan slot machine

Postby masterknowitall » Tue Mar 07, 2006 1:03 am

I had to resize my image to upload. I hope the quality is OK. Thanks for any response.
Mike.
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Postby daveslot » Tue Mar 07, 2006 4:49 pm

Hi, it's a 1960s Sega Manhattan, made in Japan. I think they made 3 different Mad Moneys, the other 2 being front openers.

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Postby masterknowitall » Tue Mar 07, 2006 5:22 pm

Daveslot, Thank you very much for your response. After many attempts to find history/info regarding this machine, you have provided the first I have ever received. I am curious as to value. Value as far as how much it is worth and also value as far as how desireable it may be to a collector.
Again, thanks a lot.
Mike.

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Postby cheeky » Mon Mar 13, 2006 3:22 pm

Hi, Sorry for the delay in getting back in touch. These machines are quite common in the UK, so values are fairly low - probably about £200.00 tops unless it is pristine. I am still bewildered by the fact that it doesn't have Sega engraved in the front panel. I suspect this is a Mills case. They made identical ones until Sega bought them out lock-stock and barrel! I guess that Sega used up the old parts so yours is probably an early one. Out of interest, where does the power lead emerge from the case?

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Postby masterknowitall » Mon Mar 13, 2006 4:20 pm

There is no place I have seen on the cabinet or on the top panel for an electrical cord. I would have thought that the top panel would light up, but I see nothing to indicate it ever did. Since Sega is not stamped or embossed on the case, and you say it may be a Mills machine, what does the "Manhattan" mean or signify??? Also, when did Sega buy out Mills?
Thanks for the reply.

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Postby cheeky » Mon Mar 13, 2006 5:45 pm

I have cut and pasted this from a previous article. Steinslots is the author.
Steinslots wrote:The history of of Sega's involvement with Mills, as I understand it came about during the late '50s when the Mills management decided to expand machine production to the rest of the world and took on a friendly deal with Sega to produce the Mills design under license from Mills but Badged Sega. They were given the tooling and full design rights.

But things went pear-shaped when Mills ran into financial difficulties and apparently Sega took over their debts and so effectively liquidated the Mills name.

This explains why Sega internal parts are so similar (and sometimes interchangeable with) Mills internal parts, up to the point where Sega were producing their own designs (Mid/late '60s). The only noticeable difference being the part numbers and the chrome plating.

Most of the parts were probably produced on Mills press tools anyway!

Most of the Mills had a serial number PRINTED underneath the cabinet across the bottom in black or blue ink. It is usually very faint. You will need to tip it right over to see it.

All of the internal Mills mechanism parts have a code commencing MLB. If you're not sure if just the mech has been changed for a Sega (as it will fit), have a look to see if MLB is stamped on the handle or damper assembly.

Mills also have a different internal facia surrounding the reels underneath the glass - I think there are 3 individual ones whereas Segas were geared up for flourescent lights and have a single white casting behind the glass.

There's a thing, oringinally very few Mills had any lighting except for the odd light-up panel at the top. The Segas were nearly all lit, and have earth wires installed everywhere. I think they also fitted anti-drill plates on the insides of the cabinet.


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