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Re: To repaint my Sega Bell or leave original?

Postby widget2k4 » Mon Nov 11, 2013 8:40 pm

Don't do what I did, I tried a hammer and punch but went the wrong way and burst it. :(
It's a left hand thread, as I discovered the hard way. lol

Maybe could get it with say two nails in opposite holes and put a bar in between them and lever against each other? Never tried it, but just a thought?

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Re: To repaint my Sega Bell or leave original?

Postby aristomatic » Mon Nov 11, 2013 9:54 pm

Bandit Handle Collar Extraction Tool

Sega Bonanza help needed please

Gameswat's advice on not doing anything until you are sure that you want to repaint or rechrome or remodel is, I believe, sound advice, but it's your machine, so do what you feel most comfortable with as you are likely to have additional information that we are not privy to, e.g. where it's likely to be situated, what other pieces are around it, whether they are original or refurbed etc.

I also believe strongly that you should let these threads develop before jumping in on either my or someone else's individual input.

Use the search facility too, there's loads more info there, and you can see how some threads develop and offer alternate options etc.
It's nearly always better to have more info, then base your decision on all of that info and relate it to your own circumstances and also your own skill-set and financial state of play.

I have above added some links, which you may have already read, but just in case you hadn't had the time to browse through. There's plenty more info too.

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Re: To repaint my Sega Bell or leave original?

Postby timosix » Mon Nov 11, 2013 11:14 pm

Thanks for all the advice and input. Those jeweller's peg clamps are just the job aren't they. I am going to persevere with the base being replaced. I will see how it pans out (bit of a challenge for me).

Could my machine really be as early as 1958?

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Re: To repaint my Sega Bell or leave original?

Postby coppinpr » Tue Nov 12, 2013 8:30 am

timosix wrote:Could my machine really be as early as 1958?
No reason why not.
Early Sega slot machines
The production of early Sega slot machines lasted roughly from 1952 to the mid-1960s and encompassed dozens of models. In 1952, when the United States outlawed slot machines, Martin Bromley saw the emerging Japanese market as an opportunity for gaming. He purchased slot machines from the government, and set up a company to import them to Japan
From the "SegaRetro" site.

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Re: Sega Bell/Mills High top linkage welding and other quest

Postby badpenny » Tue Nov 12, 2013 9:43 am

timosix wrote:Wow I am amazed with the photo of the date trickery
I learnt the photo of the date trickery years ago when I was a Human Resources Manager in industry and had a visit from the Traffic Police. One of our company cars had been Gatso'ed speeding. We weren't denying it was one of ours as it had the company name written all over it. We did need though to identify which one in order to name the driver. The registration was illegible. They simply produced a Black & White version in negative.
The contrast was enough to narrow it down.
It takes a bit of fiddling about with.

Yours was particularly tricky as the original date was very faded.

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Re: To repaint my Sega Bell or leave original?

Postby aristomatic » Tue Nov 12, 2013 10:31 am

With reference to the base, firstly, I have never replaced a base; have always sold machines on to others who have greater skill-set in that area, to achieve better than I could ever do...
You may well have thought about this option and rejected it or, if you haven't, then others may well chip in with far simpler or more practical solutions, of course, but just trying to think of simple options that may give you more confidence before trying to complete whole permanent job in one go. that's all.

Maybe, once the original base is removed, you could temporarily place the sides into the new base and then just use the x4 long carriage bolts to secure the baseplate and bolt the two front castings into place to give it some rigidity. Then you would be able to place the mechanism in and ensure that the jackpot is in correct position to the mechanism behind etc. and mark all positions once you are happy that all pieces are in correct position? You could unscrew the long carriage bolts and reposition the baseplate etc. until you are happy on alignment. Once you are happy that all pieces are in alignment, then after marking discreetly the appropriate positions, you could disassemble and then reassemble the cabinet on a permanent basis with appropriate adhesives and runners below etc.

Just a thought - as I said, others who have actually done the job may well chip in with more relevant hands-on experience of this particular job. Anyway, you confirmed that you are going to replace the base, so best of luck on it. Hopefully it will go smoother than anticipated.

Any other questions - just shout.

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Re: To repaint my Sega Bell or leave original?

Postby timosix » Wed Nov 13, 2013 10:43 pm

To remove the main handle bush from the cabinet, I found that two allen keys wedged in two of the holes and an extenstion bar between the two, worked a treat (I was surprised how stable this was).

IMP - It's a reverse thread, so clockwise to undo!
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Re: To repaint my Sega Bell or leave original?

Postby widget2k4 » Wed Nov 13, 2013 10:49 pm

Yep, that's what I said when I mentioned using nails or similar with a bar between them. :)

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Re: To repaint my Sega Bell or leave original?

Postby marktol » Thu Nov 14, 2013 9:13 am

Interesting.

I've not come across a treaded one before. All the machines I've done have had three screws on the inside which you remove and the hub just drops out.

That's a useful tip if I get a machine that doesn't have that!

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Re: To repaint my Sega Bell or leave original?

Postby aristomatic » Thu Nov 14, 2013 10:38 am

Nice tip, glad it worked for you this time.

Remember, of course, it may or may not work on the next machine!
I took the handle ball off a handle rod the other day, just unscrewed by hand - no problem. Tried another, no chance, so popped the handle ball in hot water in the sink and 'bingo', it unscrewed by hand x 5 mins later.
The third one's still in the sink with the ball still attached.... two days later...........................


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