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Re: To repaint my Sega Bell or leave original?

Postby slotalot » Thu Nov 14, 2013 10:52 am

timosix wrote:To remove the main handle bush from the cabinet, I found that two allen keys wedged in two of the holes and an extenstion bar between the two, worked a treat (I was surprised how stable this was).

IMP - It's a reverse thread, so clockwise to undo!
If you think that you may have to do a few machines, it might be worth you buying the right tool for the job :!?!: you can get then on Ebay for under a tenner, and you get to keep the skin on your knuckles were it belongs :oops:
just look for " adjustable pin wrench"
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Re: To repaint my Sega Bell or leave original?

Postby timosix » Sat Nov 16, 2013 11:20 pm

Does anyone know what these two 'widgets' do? One is a copper rod which gets depressed when the door to closed, the other seems to a lever for adjusting something?
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I am also looking for some guidance regarding getting the jackpot mechanism working. I believe this little post on the top of the payout slides lifts the lever above it which drops the jackpot out? Are there any guides for jackpot mechanism refurbing/repair?
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I am intending to degrease the escalator in paraffin, allow to dry and polish the internal coin guides with Autosol. Is this OK? I have read on this forum that the payout slides much not be lubricated in any way but I take it cleaning and polishing up is OK?

Anyone know where I can get cheap bulk sixpences and they seem to be rather expensive on eBay? Oh and is there an easy way of cleaning them for use in our machines. I was just going to hand scrub in hot water and detergent as I am not worried about keeping them in mint finish, just free from grime would be good.

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Re: To repaint my Sega Bell or leave original?

Postby coppinpr » Sun Nov 17, 2013 8:08 am

The thin one is the operating lever stop, used to interrupt the cycle if there are jams, usually in the escalator. The other one is the machine cycle bypass lever, used to quickly load the coin tube with coins by allowing the escalator to operate without cycling the mech.

You are right about the top slide jackpot release. The book to get is the "Owner's Pictorial Guide to Mills Machines". This will show all aspects of jp service and rebuild.

Yes, clean and polish (lightly) the escalator. As you said, you will need to very lightly oil the parts that are away from the coins themselves.
There are usually bulk 6ds at the Coventry auction next Sunday.

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Re: To repaint my Sega Bell or leave original?

Postby badpenny » Sun Nov 17, 2013 9:58 am

As Coppinpr says .... tanners by the truck load next Sun at Coventry.

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Re: To repaint my Sega Bell or leave original?

Postby timosix » Sun Nov 17, 2013 10:32 am

Thanks for the reply Coppinpr. The thin lever would usually be pressed in by the back door so are you saying it only operates to interrupt the cycle if the back door is off and the rod is outwards?

I have just had a go at scrubbing the escalator with paraffin, its a messy and smelly business and I am wondering why I don't adopt the same approach I have been using to initially clean the cabinet metal parts, that is to use really, really hot water with sugar soap/detergent and clean with a brush or light scouring pad as I guess the point of using a solvent is to break down the dried on grease and oil which you can pretty much do with hot water and detergent. The metal components of the mechanism all seem to be mild steel with some sort of coating which doesn't seem to rust (I am sure you will contradict me on that one :D ) By using really hot water it tends to evaporate after you have cleaned leaving it shiny and dry after a 10 minutes or so.

Coventry auction - I would love to come down. If anyone can scoup some sixpences for me I would gladly send some money by PayPal or similar. I reckon I need at least 400 for that machine.

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Re: To repaint my Sega Bell or leave original?

Postby coppinpr » Sun Nov 17, 2013 12:57 pm

Let us know where you're based and I'm sure someone will be close to you and buy for you.

I don't know how bad the escalator was, but when I clean them I simply take them completly to pieces and clean with a spray cleaner with bleach in it. Any rust I use very very fine wire wool on just the rust, then polish.

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Re: To repaint my Sega Bell or leave original?

Postby timosix » Sun Nov 17, 2013 9:22 pm

Hi.

The Escalator was not that bad and I have just managed to clean up one of the components better by scrubbing with hot water/detergent and then a quick polish rather than the paraffin method. That said when I get to the Clock I would rather just immerse it in paraffin within a plastic box and give it some agitation.

Are there any decent UK supplier of Sega/Mill High top spares. I am trying to get some upper payout finger springs, escalator spring, oh and those rectangle retaining washers would be good too. Mr Slot in the USA looks like he has everything but did I read on here that you have to make sure order isn't over £15 or you have to pay import tax?

I am in Sheffield if anyone can help with the coins, parts. That Coventry Auction sounds like I would learn a lot there. Do they sell all sorts of spares as well as complete machines?

Thanks again.

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Re: To repaint my Sega Bell or leave original?

Postby JC » Mon Nov 18, 2013 12:28 am

timosix wrote:That Coventry Auction sounds like I would learn a lot there. Do they sell all sorts of spares as well as complete machines?
Yes, indeed there will be oodles of bandit spares, as well as many wonderful machines. And yes, you will learn a lot. Coventry is the biggest slotties' event in the UK and it only happens once a year, so if you miss this you'll have to wait another year. So order yourself yourself a catalogue, and we'll see you next Sunday. !THUMBS!

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Re: To repaint my Sega Bell or leave original?

Postby timosix » Mon Nov 18, 2013 9:30 am

OK you have convinced me, I have bought a catalogue for the auction. What time does it start and when does it finish? I will have to bring my 9yr old daughter with me, does she get in free?

Is the Arena just for previous auction prices?

Oh and I know the only two parts to grease on a bandit is the main fork bearings and the handle spindle, is silicone grease OK to use or does it have to be automotive lithium based gunk?

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Re: To repaint my Sega Bell or leave original?

Postby slotalot » Mon Nov 18, 2013 9:49 am

timosix wrote:Is the Arena just for previous auction prices?
The Arena is filled with lots & lots of interesting stuff !!THUMBSX2!! and well worth the entry fee !TAPTAP!


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