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Question for the experts, on automatic payout allwin

Postby scottie » Wed Sep 17, 2014 10:57 pm

Hello.
Here is a question for the experts.
I have only this one picture...sorry.
I understand it is a B.M. co automatic payout allwin.
The question is, can you tell me if you see anything missing?
The owner said it doesn't work and thinks that's because there is some part missing... but cannot tell me what the part is, what it looks like or anything else.... It doesn't sound like they're too sure about it so.... what do you think?
By the way... not too sure what the machine is called but there are five airplanes on the front of it... hope that helps.
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Re: question for the experts, on automatic payout allwin ???

Postby treefrog » Wed Sep 17, 2014 11:29 pm

If you search on here there are some threads on these machines and the issues with them.....nice looking machine though, shame the top glass is missing, top price though, well it would be if shipped to the UK !!>*<!!

Looks all there, even the teeth look good

See below link of piccies and specs

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Re: question for the experts, on automatic payout allwin ???

Postby pennymachines » Thu Sep 18, 2014 10:19 am

The crucial part to examine is the cast aluminium carousel which holds the pennies ready for payout (not visible in your picture). These are vulnerable to damage and are difficult/impossible to repair satisfactorily. A BM Co. auto-pay Airplane sold last month at Tennants Auction Centre (see Arena). Sadly, as you can see from the pictures they provided, this example was damaged and, unless you could remake the intricate carousel casting, only good for spares.
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Re: Question for the experts, on automatic payout allwin

Postby scottie » Thu Sep 18, 2014 12:05 pm

Thank you so much for the information.
Now I am really on the fence to buy it or not... I don't want a machine I can't fix.
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Re: Question for the experts, on automatic payout allwin

Postby scottie » Sat Sep 20, 2014 5:48 pm

hello again
I finally got some pictures of the aluminium carousel.
looks ok
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Re: Question for the experts, on automatic payout allwin

Postby john t peterson » Sun Sep 21, 2014 3:05 am

Scottie,

If you look closely, you will see that two of the cast "fingers" that capture the coins dropping have been replaced. The work is good and that part of the carousel should function properly. The problem is the missing tooth on the master drive wheel. It is clearly visible in the second photo. I do not have one of these automatic pay-out games so I cannot definitively say what impact a missing gear tooth will have on the operation of the game but I'm guessing that it may be the reason the machine is not functioning. Replacing a missing tooth would be problematic.

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Re: Question for the experts, on automatic payout allwin

Postby gameswat » Sun Sep 21, 2014 3:37 am

Good to see you're still alive and well in coin-op world JP! That missing tooth is the same as shown in the mech PM posted pics of. I've never worked on this mech but I imagine the only teeth needed are the ones directly next to each coin holder.

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Re: Question for the experts, on automatic payout allwin

Postby scottie » Sun Sep 21, 2014 12:09 pm

thanks john
yes I see it now
I really don't know how that could be repaired, other than welding in a piece of metal and grinding it down to the right shape...

so correct me if I am wrong.......could I "set" the game up so it works fine till it gest to the broke tooth and then move the carousel again so it works .I know this could be a pain ,but at least it would be working till I come up with a idea

I think gameswat might be right, I wonder if I could take the game apart and line up the master drive wheel with the carousel...????
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Re: Question for the experts, on automatic payout allwin

Postby gameswat » Sun Sep 21, 2014 12:32 pm

Oops, I didn't make that clear at all. !PUNISH! There isn't anything wrong with that toothed wheel on either machine. Both are as original, the tooth is supposed to be missing I'm sure. It would be almost impossible to snap one of those brass teeth off! And even if it had it would be easy enough to solder a piece of brass to replace it. Not a lot of stesss on those teeth.

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Re: Question for the experts, on automatic payout allwin

Postby scottie » Sun Sep 21, 2014 4:16 pm

hi gameswat
so the wheel was made like that???..missing teeth,,,really !PUZZLED!......
okay then....
hopefully the seller will get back to me and sell it at a fair price
thanks again for all your help
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