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Re: Jubilee 3 reel bundle problem

Postby aristomatic » Mon Nov 03, 2014 3:15 pm

Or more like this one?
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This thread could get to 20 pages and still not be resolved.
His pays 4 instead of 2 coins for 1 cherry.....................!

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Re: Jubilee 3 reel bundle problem

Postby greg1 » Mon Nov 03, 2014 7:38 pm

My machine is exactly like the second picture with the two jackpot tubes but with different reel strips. The jackpot pays 12 coins from the payout slides, plus one of the jackpot tubes. So now if I set the reel strips to the jackpots, will all the other payouts fall into line, or will I need to make any more adjustments? If so, what will I need to do?

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Re: Jubilee 3 reel bundle problem

Postby coppinpr » Mon Nov 03, 2014 11:01 pm

I know how hard it can be at first to see the logic in a slot mech. It looks like a thousand unrelated actions are going on, but they are not. Every part that moves leads to a fixed result. If the the jackpot pays correctly with the reel strips showing the correct symbols in the payout window, then all the payouts will be lined up, unless there is some unusual damage to the discs, or the reel strips are not the correct ones (very unlikely in this case). This is not to say they will pay out correctly, only that the machine will be in the correct positions to pay out the correct amounts. Once we know all is in line, then we can see if the payouts are paying correctly.

Set up each of the payouts in turn (using the fan stop method. If you don't know how this works, look in 'Tips for Beginners' or ask in this post) and see what each pays. If it's correct, move on to the next one. If not, check it again and make a note of what it does pay. Once they are lined up correctly, it's just a matter of adjustment and/or cleaning to cure the problem. :cool:

It's just occurred to me that you might not realise that the three reel strips are all different and have to be on the correct reel. Can we be sure they have not been removed and replaced in the wrong order?

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Re: Jubilee 3 reel bundle problem

Postby greg1 » Wed Nov 05, 2014 7:16 am

I have fixed the reel strips in place and played the machine for a while. Two cherries and three oranges paid the correct amount. Do I need to go through every combination of bells, plums, oranges etc., or one of each payout? (I am aware of the fan stop method). And any pictures of the payout fingers for 1 cherry or 1 Concord and how far into the discs the fingers go please. This should pay out 2 coins. I know it down to the travel of the finger or fingers but need to know which ones I need to be looking at. Then I can make any adjustments needed.

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Re: Jubilee 3 reel bundle problem

Postby operator bell » Wed Nov 05, 2014 7:32 am

You already have that picture, it's the one I marked up at the top of page 3. Now I understand why the Concord position has a hole for the cherry also - Concord pays as a cherry. It's the outermost finger.

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Re: Jubilee 3 reel bundle problem

Postby greg1 » Wed Nov 05, 2014 8:13 pm

I understand the cherry disc holes but, if I have got this right, to pay out one cherry or one Concord (2 coins), the finger should go through only one disc, and two cherries or cherry and Concord (4 coins) through two discs. Back to the payouts - can I just check one 3 bell, one 3 plums, one 3 oranges and if these payout the right amount all the other combinations will pay the same?

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Re: Jubilee 3 reel bundle problem

Postby coppinpr » Wed Nov 05, 2014 9:25 pm

Yes, they should all be OK, always best to test all payouts though. It only needs one slide to be sticky and you might lose a couple of coins in a high payout. If the two coin payout finger is correct it should hit the second disc hard as it attempts to find the second hole that would be a 4 coin pay. The distance is easy - if it's paying 4 then it's moving too far.

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Re: Jubilee 3 reel bundle problem

Postby greg1 » Thu Nov 06, 2014 2:08 pm

I've just run through all the payouts. All pay the right amounts, all except the one cherry or one Concord which pays out 4 instead of 2 coins. I have placed the reels so only the cherry payout finger will go through the first disc and no other but there's no payout. If the payout slides which are numbered so I cannot get them wrong are sticking, how do I check? I have cleaned and polished the slides and there is not a lot of movement between the reels. As for the reel strips, I hope this makes sense - bells reel one has 1, two has 10, three has 1, plums reel one 5, reel two 1, reel three 5, oranges reel one 10, reel two 1, reel three 3. Do they look as in the right order? As I said earlier, the machine has not been used in over 30 years but I would like to get it paying the right amounts.

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Re: Jubilee 3 reel bundle problem

Postby badpenny » Thu Nov 06, 2014 6:38 pm

raj wrote:Another option may be that the whole bundle is set too far away from the payout fingers, thus allowing the 1 cherry finger to move too far, therefore tripping the second payout slide. I can't remember how the reel rod is secured, but Aristo's can be upset like this if the rod is too tight/loose. Hope this makes sense.....
Operator Bell wrote:I agree with raj, the "pay 2" lever is moving too far in.
The answer to your issue concerning the double payout may well be on page 1 of this thread.
Raj made an excellent point and Op Bell seconded it.

You may not have much lateral movement between the reels, but the whole bundle may be sitting too far across.
Each end of the reel axle has an adjuster plus locking nut.

BP

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Re: Jubilee 3 reel bundle problem

Postby coppinpr » Thu Nov 06, 2014 10:40 pm

BP has to be right I think, I believe you have been missing the point,as BP says ,its not the gap BETWEEN the reels its the gap from the finger head to the blank plate on the second disc after the finger has passed through the first disc. It should be very simple to move the entire reel bundle permanently to the right a touch and secure it in place.


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