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Re: Jubilee 3 reel bundle problem

Postby greg1 » Thu Nov 06, 2014 10:57 pm

Do you have a picture of the reel locking nut and adjuster please? The only adjustment on the reels I can see are one reel 1 and 2 and these lock the reels to the spindle. It looks as if the reel bundle is as far to the right as it can go. Aristomatic looks to have the identical machine. Is it possible he could supply pictures of the payout fingers on a 2 coin payout please? This would really help.

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Re: Jubilee 3 reel bundle problem

Postby badpenny » Fri Nov 07, 2014 9:23 am

I don't have a Jub at the moment and being honest was quoting from memory, which is foolhardy for someone who is about to install a full length mirror next to the front door to check I'm not holding a cup of tea as I depart.

It's just a thought, but have you checked that the vertical fingers are in the right order? I have acquired bandits in the past where somebody has taken them out without realising their order is important.
Force the single cherry payout and then look at the bottom of the vertical finger that makes the payout.
It should have a profile that only trips the bottom horizontal finger, if its profile trips two slides, sounds like the wrong one.
However, if it's over reaching and also tripping the horizontal finger above, check the length of the probe at the other end. If it's been shortened, it'll travel further at the bottom end.

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Re: Jubilee 3 reel bundle problem

Postby coppinpr » Fri Nov 07, 2014 9:31 am

The locking nut you're looking for has nothing to do with the individual reels. On most machines it will be found on the far left of the mech main frame and holds the spindle that goes through the middle of all the reels in position. On some machines there is one at either end (I can't remember about the Jubilee). Usually, it's a screwdriver operated bolt accessed from above but, if I remember correctly, it's a square headed bolt facing you on the left side "A" frame of the mech on a jubilee. Loosen this bolt. Check to see if there is another on the right side, if so, loosen that one as well, then you should have a small amount of movement (left/right) on the whole reel bundle. Adjust, tighten and test till you get it right.

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Re: Jubilee 3 reel bundle problem

Postby greg1 » Fri Nov 07, 2014 2:35 pm

have spent all morning and this afternoon trying something I thought of yesterday, being an old mechanic but still young looking,( I have no mirrors in my house) I found my old feeler gauges and through trial and error starting at 2 th. and working my way up, found that by using the stop fan method and using the only cherry on reel one and the same oranges on reel two and three every time and doing this three times for every combination making sure I got the same result and placing the feelers between disc one and two when I reached 25th it still paid out the 4 coins and between 26 and 27th it would not pay out, but sometimes when I removed the feelers 4 coins would still drop, so I think this rules out the pay out finger travelling to far, what next please

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Re: Jubilee 3 reel bundle problem

Postby badpenny » Fri Nov 07, 2014 3:15 pm

I can't believe we're approaching page 6 on this.

You posted this photo ....
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I take it the finger nearest is the one for cherry.
Force the cherry payout and photograph the bottom of that finger from the other side so we can see how many horizontal fingers it's tripping.

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Re: Jubilee 3 reel bundle problem

Postby greg1 » Fri Nov 07, 2014 6:02 pm

I can not believe it also that's why I tried this forum to solve the problem, but does not look good, on the good side thanks to other posts on this forum have solved the lighting problem I had so something good has come from this forum, many thanks to those people that have patience and like to help others cheers

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Re: Jubilee 3 reel bundle problem

Postby badpenny » Fri Nov 07, 2014 6:44 pm

That's ok, helping out with machines is what we do, so let's see the piccie I've requested above ..... :cool:

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Re: Jubilee 3 reel bundle problem

Postby raj » Fri Nov 07, 2014 7:11 pm

I think we have established that the cherry vertical lever is moving too far, so instead of trying to bugger around with the reels, just bend the bottom of the vertical lever outwards, so it only hits 1 payout. A large pair of pliers will do the trick without any dismantling.

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Re: Jubilee 3 reel bundle problem

Postby operator bell » Fri Nov 07, 2014 9:58 pm

It may just be worn. That payout finger sees more action than the others. Or, it may be vertically misaligned - we haven't mentioned that before. Excuse my crude drawing but the finger should look like this. If the finger is set a little too high, the bottom step will push both the bottom horizontal payout lever and the one above it, causing a 4 payout.
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Alternatively, it could be as simple as a buildup of grease and crud on the bottom step, or the first two horizontal levers are glued together with dried grease, or there could be a spring missing or weak at the back (right of picture below).
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See the way the horizontal levers are bent at the left to line up with the slides. On the 4th click the fingers release and push these levers aside (out of the page), leaving the selected slides free to pull back when the master slide release is removed (5th click). If the second horizontal lever is bent or broken so that it doesn't block slide 2, every time slide 1 is released it will move back and drop an extra 2 coins.

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Re: Jubilee 3 reel bundle problem

Postby greg1 » Sun Nov 09, 2014 4:07 pm

great news can now get the machine to pay out 2 coins with a little help, have two photos if you look at the one that's from the side of the machine the bottom lever that pays the two coins is working ok but the second one up has about 5mm sticking out allowing the second slide to open, if I hold this in place with a screw driver it pays the 2 coins, the second picture is taken from the back shows the vertical lever which looks to just touch the second from the bottom, have tried a little tweek but don't want to cause more problems, I also noticed that one of the springs had been shortened on the slide stoppers (not sure the wordings right) so also shortened the second slide stopper spring by the same amount but did not do the trick, not wanting to cause more problems looking at what to do next.
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