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Re: Bally gold award fruit machine help

Postby coppinpr » Thu Sep 10, 2015 6:31 am

The magnet is trapping the coin because it thinks it's a dud,this is because later 1p coins have a higher iron content over the early ones, remove the magnet, those coin mechs Un clip to remove,then open the gate and release the magnet,hopefully the coin will pass the gap if not you need to fill the gap or De magnetise the magnet and replace it. As you interested in checking the coins you could remove the coin checker altogether and just direct the coins past the wire switch.

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Re: Bally gold award fruit machine help

Postby coppinpr » Thu Sep 10, 2015 6:36 am

The mech needs cleaning rather than just spraying with oil,the mechanical parts on these are few compared to early machines,clean off all hard grease and lightly oil with 3 in 1. Never oil close to an y coin area, the payout slides will need to be removed and cleaned,possibly with wire wool as they look to be a little rusty, there are so many switches on these that you do need switch cleaner spray

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Re: Bally gold award fruit machine help

Postby barnzy11 » Thu Sep 10, 2015 7:24 am

Ahh right I see that makes sense now. I will have a play with that then and remove the magnet. In regards to testing the coin wire is it best I purchase the spray switch cleaner and do that stage first before testing the wire?

Also with the 3in1 oil is the spray oil best to use or the squirt one?

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Re: Bally gold award fruit machine help

Postby coppinpr » Thu Sep 10, 2015 1:42 pm

No reason why you can't try the switch at once, but don't expect everything to work. What you're really hoping for is for at least some things to go click. If it's all dead we will have to start at the beginning. Beware, solenoids that have have been idle for years have a habit of whining very loudly at you. This is not always a bad sign, unless another switch is supposed to switch it off and hasn't.
The thing about oil on slots is this, when they were made the options were limited - grease was used as it was long lasting and the choice of the day. One of our biggest enemies is that original grease, now oxidised into solid lumps that do just opposite of what was intended. Because we use our machines very lightly compared to their arcade days, modern very light oil in small amounts is enough for every 3 months. Sometimes I use 3-in-One spray, usually on mechanical clocks and slot doors because it includes the WD40 type easer, but the can with the long nose is best.

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Re: Bally gold award fruit machine help

Postby barnzy11 » Thu Sep 17, 2015 5:15 pm

Hey,

Right so I went round to my dad's to try the things on the bally that you said and here is what happened..

We took the magnet out of the coin checker so now the 1p passes through ok, only thing is it goes straight through and out of the payout tray on the front of the machine and not through where the wire switch is you mentioned? Is there a reason for this?

We plugged the machine in and pushed the wire switch with a screwdriver and it clicked/made a noise to say it's working, we then pulled the handle and set up the reels for a win and all the payout section made the right noises so I think that's all ok? So what would be next now?

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Re: Bally gold award fruit machine help

Postby badpenny » Thu Sep 17, 2015 6:13 pm

The coin validator is rejecting the coin as being a dud.
As you've removed the magnet you probably know how get it out by now, if not, it's this bit and the release catches are at the top on both sides.

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It's easier to work on these little beasties when they're not in the case.
Look underneath it and you'll see there are two exit slots, one for accepted coins which go on to trip the credit switch and the other for rejected coins which get returned to the payout tray.
Are you sure it works on 1np?
Does an older coin (try one that isn't affected by a magnet) exit from the accepted chute at the bottom?
The newer coins are not only affected by magnets, they're also slightly thicker.
You should find an adjusting screw which should help you.

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Re: Bally gold award fruit machine help

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Re: Bally gold award fruit machine help

Postby coppinpr » Thu Sep 17, 2015 11:28 pm

Are you saying when you work the switch it then allows you to pull the handle and the machine works correctly?
Are you all so saying when a winner comes up the machine actually pays out?

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Re: Bally gold award fruit machine help

Postby barnzy11 » Fri Sep 18, 2015 10:16 am

Badpenny - well we assumed it took new penny's as it says 1np on the front !PUZZLED! Dad has tried a few old penny's as well but they are doing the same thing?

Coppinpr - the handle works the reels whether there is a coin inserted or not as it maybe still on freeplay? What we did was trip the wire with a screwdriver, then we pulled the handle anyway to get the reels spinning and moved them onto a winning line, let the brakes kick in then it made all the noises for the payout, we have no money in it at all for it to actually pay out, I was unsure whether to put a few penny's in the payout tube incase they got stuck if they were the wrong ones.

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Re: Bally gold award fruit machine help

Postby badpenny » Fri Sep 18, 2015 11:18 am

So, it's on free play and seems to be working.
The Coin Mechanism is rejecting all coins.

Q1) Does the handle engage if the power isn't on?
Ai)If so then there's been a manual interference to keep the Play Solenoid engaged regardless of power
Aii)If not then there's been an electric interference to keep The Play Solenoid engaged only when the power is on.

Q2) What did you find after you removed the Coin Acceptor like I suggested and then read the excellent file that slotalot sent you? For there lies the answer to your "coin in" problem.

Tell us the answer to Q1 above and what happened regarding Q2 and we'll nearly be home my friend! !!THUMBSX2!!


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