Lock for allwin flick ball machine

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Lock for allwin flick ball machine

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Hi, anyone out there know where I can get a replacement lock for this machine? I have tried getting a new key cut for mine, but can't find a locksmith that can do the job. !PUZZLED!
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Locks for allwins can vary in that sometimes the barrel can be set off centre on some models so they are not a universal fit without some 'carpentry'. It may be best that you remove the lock, photograph it with measurements and post here. Someone may have a suitable replacement.
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Will do thank you for the heads up. Will post it in a couple of days as I am waiting for the last locksmith I tried to return the lock!
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So got the lock back and the pic is below. Measurements oddly enough are in metric. Long side 6cm. Short side 4.5cm. Distance between lip edge and centre of barrel 2.75cm. Writing on barrel H&F with what looks like a J across the &. And the number 560. Does anyone know where I can either get a replacement key or a replacement lock? I have exhausted all avenues down here. Thank you, Mei-mei
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The easiest way would be to get keys cut to suit. I don't see how an outfit who can't/won't cut keys for a simple lock like this can call themselves locksmiths.
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mei-mei wrote:Measurements oddly enough are in metric
Only if you use a metric scale to take the dimensions. :!?!:
I recall many years ago we sent an office junior out to measure a small Victorian house and when he returned feeling very pleased with himself I said "Oh no you have measured it in metric! as it was built from imperial bricks and materials you have to measure it in imperial and then convert it to metric to draw the building!! " - You should have seen his face :HaHa:
(we did tell him....... later)
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Hi, thanks for the prompt reply. Yeah Penny Machines rubbish locksmiths here tried 3 and 2 refused outright and the other sent it away keep it for 2 weeks then returned it. Argee! I didn't think you could be so mean :shock: Still hoping someone could direct me to a new lock?
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Sorry MM, didn't mean to be mean with my old fashioned notion that locksmiths cut keys for locks. It's not as if the blanks aren't available for these. I reckon we need one of our gurus here to give us all a step by step tutorial on cutting keys for locks.

Fortunately there are still some proper locksmiths where I live - a few miles from the historical centre of British lock making. Yours came from there: Humphrey & J Fox (Century Locks Ltd., 1814-1990), Century Works, 4 Moat Street, Willenhall. As you get involved with these machines, the lock becomes something more than an incidental gadget for holding the door shut - it's part of the machine and its history, so original is best.

This is a useful resource: A Gazetteer of Lock and Key Makers

I'm sure I can get the keys cut for you if you have no luck locally.
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If it is not too much trouble would you get one cut for me? I thought it was Argee being mean not you? Mei-mei
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Hi, just took a peek at the lock and key makers site. Fantastic, they are an art form all by themselves. Particularly liked the combination padlock made by John Hough. How come all the smart guys are in your part of the country and I've got diddly down here! dirtdog
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