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Greetings: First post, hope it won't be my last. I read your post on how to build your own slot machine and was quite impressive with your knowledge and know how. There is a county in TX that is allowed to have slot machines where residents go from far and wide to play these machines. They offer ten dollars free when you insert ten dollars into the slot machines. They do pay out with U.S. dollars. These machines are of course designed not to pay out or to pay out very poorly. The persons that run this place are making lots and lots of money from these machines because they are open every day of the week. Around here there isn't much to do for entertainment, so people go there by the droves. So, what I am getting at is this; How do I improve my odds in making the machines put out the bonus rounds more often. I am referring to the LIFE OF LUXURY slot machines. They are penny, two pennies and nickle machines. What determines the outcome; relays, timers, magnets, etc???????. Let me know if you can help me out. Thanks. AL.
P.S. I am sending a picture of the machine I play the most. :-?
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It's all done by special mirrors travelling at the speed of light. Now would you like to know how to win the lottery?
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SLOTS??????????????

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Are you trying to be sarcastic/dogmatic about my request???? If so,
don't respond to any of my emails. I am serious about this concern. AL. :evil:
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alsports, I'm afraid your questions are probably outside the remit of this site, which is dedicated to (primarily British) coin-operated amusement machines of the mechanical/electro-mechanical age.
The picture of the machine you've posted is one from the electronic, micro-processor controlled age that most of us just don't understand - (or particularly care for).
I hope you find your answers - but I think you've come to the wrong site.

Jerry
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Thanks for responding and I think that the principle is the same as far as slots are concerned. In other words: both take in bills or coins and pay out according to its pay out schedule. I understand that you all play coin operated machines but there just might be someone in this site who knows and understands what I am talking about. I don't know if you were selected by other members of this site to make decisions as to what is relevant and what is not. If that is the case, then this site is not for me. Thanks. AL.
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Hi alsports2000, if you read this then here's the deal.
Having worked some years ago for a slot machine manufacturer (similar to the one you ask about!). Being a computer programmer by trade it was my job to write the code for the ROM in these things to control the micro chip.
I can tell you now, there is no way to control the outcome in your favour by playing alone (hackers and the like may be able to tamper with the electrics etc...). The Reels (or graphics on video screen versions) are there purely for cosmetics, they do not control the payout. As soon as your money is deposited and the handle pulled or button pressed, the processor knows what the three pictures on the reels will be BEFORE they stop. The processor decides what to pay (depending on amount of money taken over a set period) then spins the reels AND it controls via the stepper motor EXACTLY where to stop each reel.
The programs I wrote to control these machines allowed the owner to set to the penny exactly how much profit they wanted to make and how big the percent of payouts were.

If buying an electronic slot machine, be careful, as there is nothing you can do to correct errors if these things misbehave, apart from replacing the correct circuit board. Usually better to scrap the machine and buy another!

As for mechanical slots, as everyone here is aware, these work in reverse to electronic ones... The reels REALLY do dictate the payout, in other words these ARE totally random on each play. But because the number of symbols on each reel has been carefully worked out mathmatically based on odds, hence the reason why the big jackpots don't payout often, the favour is with the owner!
Plus if one of these goes wrong, because its mechanical, theres a good chance of you being able to repair it!

Hope that helps or gives you some idea about these machines. I miss writing the code for these processor machines because i loved the logic behind them.

alsports2000 in answer to your original question.. You cannot improve your odds or chances of getting the bonuses more often on this type of machine, sorry!
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"The Best Things In Life"??????????

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Thank you so much for taking the time to respond. I understand most of what you explained in your email, I am by no means a slot expert nor a computer programmer. I do know that there is a company that offers a small gadget that actually introduces a virus into the slot chip and allows it to payout more then the usual. I did not wanted to go that route, I was hoping that I could probably use a magnet, a mirror, an ultraviolet light, etc. just to improve my odds. I know the consequences but these gamerooms are a rags to riches overnight because their slots are programed not to pay or to pay very little. I don't want to break the house or gamerooms, I just want to get some of my money back. I more or less know what you are going to say if you read this email-its too risky but I'll take my chances. You do not have to respond to this email and thank you again for responding. AL.
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alsports, not only are you a 24 carat crack-pot, but you clearly have every intention of committing a fraudulent act.
I was right in the first place - this is not the site for you.

Jerry :evil:
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I'd already sussed that out in the first reply! :roll:
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It takes one crack pot to know another crack pot. Its a good thing you are thousands of miles away from me otherwise I would personally kick your candy ass for your insults and meddling in business that is none of your business. I already told you not to read or answer any of my emails. None of what I write is for you or your information, so, stop insulting me or any of my emails.
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Admin: Get rid of this idiot.
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You know what? I am not going to stoop down to your level shit head and don't you understand English?? Don't answer or view any of my posts stupid. What part of NO don't you understand???? Get a job, go play with yourself, just don't bother my again retard.
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Greetings! I've just returned home from the pub, and have found I've spent all my money. There's not much else to do around here, so I tend to do this on a regular basis - and the pub's raking it in!
Can anyone help me get my money back (or is it just my own stupid fault for spending it all in the first place)?
I'm prepared to stoop to any level, legal or otherwise. If you are not sympathetic to my concerns, then don't read this. And don't reply either, or I shall get really abusive. :dammit:
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Dear JC, how is your candy ass? I have been formally selected by no one (as per the rules of this forum) to keep my business out of your business, my dog does his business in the compost heap, so keep clear of there as well!
If you don't think I'll like your response to the question I'm about to answer then I've told you before don't bother my again ..... my what again? I don't really know you retard.
Personally I don't mind crack pots, they can smoke what the hell they like so long as they don't come on this forum afterwards. Very often they are merely living evidence that not too long ago "someone in the family knew someone in the family" perhaps not very well, just intimately.

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Post by pennymachines »

I've split and moved this topic because it had little relevance to the original "MAKE YOUR OWN SLOT MACHINE" post and forum.

As mentioned before, I delete posts that are unlikely to be of interest to anyone here and ban spammers but otherwise favour free speech.
Insults and abuse will be tolerated under our "everybody has a right to make themselves look silly" policy although the bad language filter will occasionally kick in.
As for banning idiots - life would be so dull.

I don't think we have machines quite like the LIFE OF LUXURY in the UK so, unless one of our US visitors speak up, I doubt we'll hear a more precise account of the mechanism than markymark's. There are many books available claiming to contain formulas for beating and cheating modern slots and a variety of tools and gadgets too. I suspect these are really formulas for parting the gullible from even more of their cash, although I don't speak from experience. The modern machines have the benefit of many years' development against numerous player/cheat strategies and their electronics allow them to monitor and report any payout anomalies. Arcades also employ surveillance cameras.

There's a noble tradition of trying to cheat the slots. I'm sure I'm not alone here in admiring those who succeed. After all, the operators have an equally long tradition of trying to cheat the punters by fair means and foul. Modern gambling machines are masters of deception. They entertain by deluding players into believing they have a reasonable chance of coming out on top. The problem is the operators have the law on their side and it takes a very clever person to find a successful ruse without getting caught. Ingenious individuals do keep finding new wheezes but by the time they publish their secrets you can bet the operators already got wise.

I think there's a consensus here that the best way to profit from gambling machines is to enjoy them or own them.
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I only intended to explain how these modern slots work electronically, and to enlighten collectors of old slots who may not have known exactly how they operate. I didn't explain things to encourage "hacking" a machine.
However, your suggestions regarding mirrors, lasers, magnets would not increase your odds. The gadgets you describe are only suitable for people who have access to the circuitry inside. As a personal bit of advice, I would find another way of making money away from the area of slot machines.
As to your view about these establishments, yes they do make money, but then doesn't all forms of gambling. We take our chance when we play - sometimes we're winners sometimes losers, but that's life.
You sound like you have fun playing these machines, why not just enjoy the thrill of playing.
Best Wishes mate.
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That's a pretty cool Twilight Zone, Pennymachines! My wife thanks you, and I have been instructed to download and assemble the three parts into one for her. I must say, if I could find a machine that paid a 10,000 jackpot at 8000:1 odds I'd have played it all weekend too.

That's a studio setup, not a real casino. What an interesting collection of machines - I wonder where they got them. The rarest and most interesting was the AC Novelty "Multibell" to the left of the demon machine. I've never seen one of those in any movie before.

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Yes I clocked that juicy Multibell. That's the one I'd be playing.
Thanks go to Coin-op for finding this. My brother gave me the full set of Twilight Zone DVDs for Christmas.
Here's another one about a man who becomes superstitious slave to a fortune-telling napkin dispenser!


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