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Re: Wonder Win and Place allwin machine

Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2017 2:39 pm
by mei-mei
Not a prob 13rebel, no need to beat yourself up about it. I would have tried the outside taper pins as it certainly would be less effort, if I was not so worried about getting the replacement pins to look neat. Being a bit of a sledge hammer person :smash: I thought it more prudent to try to repair the damage done inside where it matters a little less if the finish is not so perfect. MM

Re: Wonder Win and Place allwin machine

Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2017 3:09 pm
by pennymachines
I've never had to remove the outer pins on handle or trigger, but Gameswat has encountered more allwins than I have. I still think, with the right tools, filing off the ends and following Widget's advice about supporting the shaft, you should have no problem getting those pins out. Seems like they need to be replaced anyway. If you follow Gameswat's suggestion and remove the outer pins, you'll probably want to replace them and file flush before rechroming, so they're hidden behind the chrome again - in which case, you'll still want to remove the other pins.

You do realize you may have caused an international incident by asking this question. !:STOP:!

Re: Wonder Win and Place allwin machine

Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2017 4:10 pm
by mei-mei
If I re-chrome after re-attaching the handles with pins, won't that mean I will never be able to get them off again? What international incident? Have I breached some protocol? '!'

Re: Wonder Win and Place allwin machine

Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2017 5:22 pm
by bryans fan
pennymachines wrote: Sat Apr 22, 2017 9:58 pm I may be wrong (I usually am)...
Now that sounds familiar! !NYAH!

Re: Wonder Win and Place allwin machine

Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2017 6:31 pm
by pennymachines
mei-mei wrote: Sun Apr 23, 2017 4:10 pm If I re-chrome after re-attaching the handles with pins, won't that mean I will never be able to get them off again?
You shouldn't need to get them off, but it would be the same process - scrape off chrome and whack the pin.
mei-mei wrote: Sun Apr 23, 2017 4:10 pm Have I breached some protocol? '!'
No, but I may have (I usually do).

Re: Wonder Win and Place allwin machine

Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2017 6:43 pm
by mei-mei
Sometimes this site get really weird. !SHARKY!

Re: Wonder Win and Place allwin machine

Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2017 8:07 pm
by JC
Bloody hell, four pages........ :NBG:

Re: Wonder Win and Place allwin machine

Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2017 10:31 pm
by john t peterson
Simple answer: Bigger hammer. Save the electrons!

J Peterson
Hammered in the USofA

Re: Wonder Win and Place allwin machine

Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2017 5:46 am
by mei-mei
Thanks J Peterson, def my kinda DIY! :smash:

Re: Wonder Win and Place allwin machine

Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2017 7:43 am
by mei-mei
I hesitate to ask this question, having stirred up such a poop storm the last time, but here goes. Does anyone know where I can get 1/4 inch ply to replace the back board of this machine. Woodworm have had breakfast lunch and supper for years leaving it looking like Swiss cheese. All the DIY shops here are in metric and the closest in metric sticks out the back by a few mm. Really annoying. :dammit:

Re: Wonder Win and Place allwin machine

Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2017 9:19 am
by coppinpr
The whole point of a forum is to stir things up - keep the posts coming. :lol:

Your best bet with the back of your machine might be to plane or saw (or god forbid) sand out a ridge all round the inside of the new back so it recesses into the case flush on the outside. The not so good option would be to cut the new back larger to fit flush with the sides rather than inset. If the back had worm, check and treat the case edges if affected.

Re: Wonder Win and Place allwin machine

Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2017 9:26 am
by badpenny
I must be used to living in a poop storm, I didn't spot anything.

Your imperial ply is waiting for you at your nearest house clearance auction house.
Old brown furniture is pennies at the moment, nobody wants it. Most cupboards/drawers/wardrobes etc. from that era used it on the back panel.
If you don't fancy paying for it, go around the back where they dump the stuff that doesn't sell.

If you don't have an auction near you try Charity Shops.

BP :cool:

Re: Wonder Win and Place allwin machine

Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2017 9:30 am
by highfield
B&Q sell 5.5 mm plywood which is 0.217 inches. That's what I used on my penguin allwin - it's perfect.

Re: Wonder Win and Place allwin machine

Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2017 10:45 am
by pennymachines
Poop storm! Love it !!HYSTERIA!! What do you expect from a bunch of anally retentive collectors?

No serious collector would dream of using modern when there's so much period ply available. !PEEP! :lol:

Re: Wonder Win and Place allwin machine

Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2017 12:06 pm
by highfield
Yes but it's all got woodworm :!?!:

Re: Wonder Win and Place allwin machine

Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2017 12:51 pm
by mei-mei
coppinpr wrote:If the back had worm, check and treat the case edges if affected.
Thanks coppinpr, The entire in and outside has been nibbled. Gone over the whole thing with stuff.
BP wrote:If you don't have an auction near you try Charity Shops.
Thanks B.P. great idea. No auction houses near here but loads and loads of Charity shops.
highfield wrote:B&Q sell 5.5 mm plywood
Thank you Highfield, I have seen that but on this machine that is a little too narrow and leaves a gap of a couple of mm
pennymachines wrote:No serious collector would dream of using modern when there's so much period ply available
Thanks Penny machines, you always know how to make a budding collector feel good '!' !

Re: Wonder Win and Place allwin machine

Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2017 12:55 pm
by john t peterson
"Poop storm,"……."anally retentive,"…..which is it? You can't have both, can you? !PUZZLED!

J Peterson
Retentively perplexed in America

Re: Wonder Win and Place allwin machine

Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2017 1:34 pm
by pennymachines
It starts with retention but there's only one possible outcome. !!SHIT!!

Re: Wonder Win and Place allwin machine

Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2017 1:41 pm
by mei-mei
Nightmare, I talk 1/4 inch ply and you guys talk poop!

Re: Wonder Win and Place allwin machine

Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2017 1:45 pm
by pennymachines
You started it. !MADEME!