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Oliver Whales CHAD WOT? allwin

Postby gameswat » Thu Jul 08, 2010 1:50 pm

Hi - currently restoring three of these at once. Can anybody fill me in on the significance of the name CHAD? I'm assuming it's the British counterpart to KILROY? Pulled them out of the attic of an old tyme coin-op restorer in California back in 2007.
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Re: CHAD?

Postby slotalot » Thu Jul 08, 2010 3:47 pm

Hi, check out this link, !PUZZLED!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/ww2peopleswar/stor ... 8719.shtml

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W O T ???

Postby scottie » Wed Nov 21, 2012 12:50 am

Topic merged - site admin.

Hello everyone,
Just got a lead on two machines and wanted to know if anyone had any comments (good or bad) before I part with the cash.
I do have the usual questions... Who made them? What year would they be?
W O T ????

Thanks,
scottie.
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Re: W O T ???

Postby john t peterson » Wed Nov 21, 2012 5:05 am

"Wot" is definitely Oliver Whales. The red highlights on the casing and the look is mid-'40s for my money.

I have no idea on #2.

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Re: W O T ???

Postby gameswat » Wed Nov 21, 2012 6:42 am

The second machine has a Philip Shefras Ltd badge with address at Hollybush Place, Bethnal Green road, London E2. Not sure when he was operating though?

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Re: W O T ???

Postby arrgee » Wed Nov 21, 2012 12:21 pm

Gameswat wrote:The second machine has a Philip Shefras Ltd badge with address at Hollybush Place, Bethnal Green road, London E2
Seen one or two of the second type allwin before but, until now, did not know anything about them, they have a very distinctive style payout cup.

With the arched door and sloping coin entry, I wonder if this brings us closer to the Mystery 50s manufacturer (Philip Shefras Ltd) as discussed on the 7 year old thread in the Open Forum?
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Re: W O T ???

Postby pennymachines » Wed Nov 21, 2012 1:49 pm

Arrgee wrote:With the arched door and sloping coin entry, I wonder if this brings us closer to the Mystery 50s manufacturer (Philip Shefras Ltd) as discussed on the 7 year old thread in the Open Forum?
I've copied and merged this thread with the Mystery '50s Allwin Manufacturer thread.

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Re: Oliver Whales CHAD WOT? allwin

Postby pennymachines » Wed Nov 21, 2012 5:40 pm

OakLey46 wrote:Chad was a ubiquitous piece of popular culture graffiti seen in the United Kingdom during and shortly after World War II.

The graffito consisted of a cartoon of a small, round head with a long nose poking over the top of a wall, with a complaint about shortages written underneath; the cartoon itself is better known to many as "Kilroy", since it often accompanied the slogan "Kilroy was here". It also appeared in Australia captioned "Foo was here".

The origin may be the cartoonist George Edward Chatterton (or "Chat") in 1938, although it is unclear how it gained widespread popularity or became conflated with Kilroy. It was, however, widely in use by the late part of the war and in the immediate post-war years, with slogans ranging from the simple "What, no bread?" or "Wot, no char?" to the plaintive; one sighting, on the side of a British 1st Airborne Division glider in Operation Market Garden, had the complaint "Wot, no engines?"

As rationing became less common, so did the joke; while the cartoon is occasionally sighted today as "Kilroy", "Chad" and his complaints have long fallen from popular use.
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See also: Kilroy was here

There's an early example like yours Scottie, with a nice mirror top (mostly obscured by gentleman in front) on the Whales & White trade stand photo.
If only we could pan a little further to the right, we might also see the Allwin Supreme on Philip Shefras's stand!
Also, in Resources, there's an Oliver Whales invoice for a Chad dated 29/01/1957.

Here's an example I sold a few year's ago.
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Re: Oliver Whales CHAD WOT? allwin

Postby scottie » Wed Nov 21, 2012 10:58 pm

Interesting.... Thanks everyone...
I just got another email from "this person"...... !PUZZLED!
I have a funny feeling this "might" be a SCAM....
They sent me more close-up pictures... but they're of a different machine.
The background of all the pictures is "blank" - no hint of the machines being in their garage, living room etc.... and the price, including shipping, is cheap!!! ...real cheap.
Anyone ever heard of a place called... Ancient Victory?
:evil: I really like the look of the two machines and wanted to buy them...
I will keep you posted.
scottie.

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Re: Oliver Whales CHAD WOT? allwin

Postby badpenny » Thu Nov 22, 2012 12:42 pm

That's how scammers reel you in!

Ancient Victory? ..... Google says ... Huh?

If it was me and I thought it was a chancer having a go at me, I'd waste his time and have some fun. I once kept a Nigerian Prince occupied for 3 weeks.
Offer to agree to his payment requirements easily then gloss over it and ask him if multi hinged pendulum cutters are fitted to the anti-cheat gate on either of them as it makes them more valuable.

As the shipping is so cheap could he also package up another machine you're buying near to him if you can get it dropped off by the vendor. You'll happily pay up front in cash in advance for it all. How much would that add to it? What's his post/zip etc?

Always end with a question that'll give him a bit of thinking about to keep you happy but tempts his greed.

I hope it's kosher and works out for you.

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