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Re: Sega Bell Slot Lucky Devil Restoration

Postby aristomatic » Tue Jan 01, 2019 8:32 pm

How many bars and melons on each reel strip are there? Makes life lot easier if just 1 bar and 1 melon on each strip.

By the way, if you remove the coin tube, when replacing it, make sure you reinsert the rake off lever. This is the L shaped lever that pokes through the slit or hole at the rear top of the coin tube. As you remove cointube it will just fall back, but retained by a fastener.


In England it's pretty rare to have cherries on all three reels. Less likely to put the left or centre strip on the right reel as cherries are shown on the award card, paying left & centre only. Tic Tac Toe reel-strips make life easier too of course..........

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Re: Sega Bell Slot Lucky Devil Restoration

Postby coppinpr » Tue Jan 01, 2019 9:04 pm

As Aristo says, it's easy if there is only one jackpot line available. You can't just line up any three bars, it has to be the right three bars. Although I don't use it much, there might be an easy way to get started: some sets of payout discs have a set of line up holes (I think I can see them on yours). These are three small holes that when lined up and, with a thin rod pushed through, hold the reels in the correct position for (I think in your case) three BARS (or perhaps the start point for the reel strips, Aristo will know). It's not so easy as it looks as if it's bars you would still need to move the strips round the reels if there is more than one three BAR option. Each option would need to be set up then the rod removed and, say, three oranges lined up to see if they give a payout. If you need to dismantle the reel bundle and put them in the right order this will be much easier to test with the line up holes.

Like Tom, I did think of the transformer being the old UK 220v, but I thought you said the electrics used to work. Is that not the case?

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Re: Sega Bell Slot Lucky Devil Restoration

Postby thndrr » Wed Jan 02, 2019 12:32 am

Sorry, to clarify I have no knowledge of the electronics ever working. The plug has been cut off as long as I can remember, unsure if it has ever been used in the States.

There are a couple of holes on each reel, one small one and two larger.

I have attached the reel strips, unfortunately two symbols are missing. But it does appear to lack a Cherry in the third reel, and have only one melon / bar.
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Re: Sega Bell Slot Lucky Devil Restoration

Postby coppinpr » Wed Jan 02, 2019 9:28 am

the reel strips are of course Sega BUT they have been designed using the Mills 7-7-7 strips for the most part,so much so that you can guess the top two missing symbols are BELL, LEMON but Im sure someone has this machine and can confirm that, you do have them laid out in the correct order. Do melons and bars pay the same? if so then you will need to test a couple of options to make sure you line up the correct JP holes for those two payouts,

seeing as the electrics never worked in the US you can bet your life thats a 220v transformer, electrics not my thing but I dont think you can do much with it to work on 110v

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Re: Sega Bell Slot Lucky Devil Restoration

Postby aristomatic » Wed Jan 02, 2019 9:52 am

If you look at the vertical pay out fingers in their frame, scanning left to right, e.g. from front of the mechanism to the rear, I would think vertical payout fingers operate the following:

Bars, Melons, Bell, Plum, Feature, Oranges, Feature, Cherry.

However, I'm a little puzzled over a couple of aspects so I would wait for others input before following my suggestion. As I said at the onset, I have little experience on this set up...

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Re: Sega Bell Slot Lucky Devil Restoration

Postby treefrog » Wed Jan 02, 2019 10:32 am

So you have lined them up correctly now and seeing the reel discs, the first disc (right hand one) matches the left hand reel tin correctly, so I assume someone had moved the strip for some odd reason.

You now need to line up and refit. Where the notch is on the disc (these are used for machines fitted with the token vendor) this should be where the Lemon lines up. You will need to refit the strip from the bottom first. Also, you need to line up where the second and third match. You can do this looking for the side where the holes are and writing down each combination..... Let us know if you need help.

Oh, edited as obviously where the finger goes in, as mentioned, you will need to line the lemon to the visual aspect of the centre of the reel window, so not put the lemon inline with the slot, just to be clear.
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Re: Sega Bell Slot Lucky Devil Restoration

Postby coppinpr » Wed Jan 02, 2019 12:07 pm

As usual with the forum we are moving forward slowly eliminating things one step at a time, and, as usual, it's working.

Now we have a clear photo of the outer (reel one) payout disc things are looking a bit easier to line up. It looks like there is only one payout for BARS and MELONS, once the first strip is in place using Toms method of lining up the three BARS will be easy. With the BARS in that position, check the holes line up for MELONS just to be sure and that's it!
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Re: Sega Bell Slot Lucky Devil Restoration

Postby treefrog » Thu Jan 03, 2019 4:05 pm

I remember the machine I have which is almost identical, but a Mills version. Same electricals and although I bought 10 years ago have never touched it since or plugged in. Might have given me inspiration to dig out and get going !!THUMBSX2!!

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Re: Sega Bell Slot Lucky Devil Restoration

Postby thndrr » Thu Jan 03, 2019 5:05 pm

That is identical! Well if you do get it out, I’d be much obliged if you could measure the transformer output!

I haven’t had a chance to mess with the reels. Hopefully I can tomorrow.

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Re: Sega Bell Slot Lucky Devil Restoration

Postby thndrr » Sat Jan 05, 2019 5:56 am

Making some progress. I have the reels mapped properly, I am now almost 100% certain. I get payouts on every single cherry. The problem is, I am not getting anything else. It seems like the fingers are not entering the reel deep enough to trigger anything. Below are images of a 3 bell hit. Nothing was paid out, and you can see the finger is lined up, but it did not go through. It does this for all other hits (including 2 cherry). Images are with my phone crammed and angled into the mech, so they appear a little skewed.
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