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Re: Sega Bell Slot Lucky Devil Restoration

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 11:27 am
by treefrog
Why hey !!YIPPEE!! !!YIPPEE!! got mine working.... I can’t believe it is related, but I had been awaiting some bulbs I ordered as only one worked... plugged in the second bulb and the feature is fully working. I thought the lighting was in parallel, not series, so should not have affected it, but it must do in some odd way...

Well, going to service the mechanism, clean and polish the cabinet, but leave all original... Stupid thing is, if I had put a jackpot in, it would probably be worth more as it is only odd nostalgic people who could me. :cool:

Might do a video when done.

Re: Sega Bell Slot Lucky Devil Restoration

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 1:04 pm
by coppinpr
Nice one Tom, glad you're leaving it as "Lucky Devil". !THUMBS!

Re: Sega Bell Slot Lucky Devil Restoration

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 1:11 pm
by brigham
How many 'goes' can you get, during the feature?

Re: Sega Bell Slot Lucky Devil Restoration

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 2:23 pm
by thndrr
brigham wrote:
Wed Jan 09, 2019 9:11 am
The switch is OPEN during rest. It closes every time the payout fingers are released, except in the single case of the 'no-devil' ORANGE, where it is kept open by an additional thickness of metal on the payout disc at that point.
The switch is wired in series with the payout solenoid. When the feature is in play, it causes the solenoid to operate the 'pay ten' vertical lever, and cause a maximum payout. It only receives power when the feature is in operation.
An interesting point about the transformer. On mine, I thought the secondary winding was open-circuit. It showed no continuity on the AVO 'ohms' setting.
BUT, I then realised that the secondary output leads were simply the ends of the winding left long, and sleeved. Of course, the wire was enamel insulated, and, scraping the enamel off showed continuity.
Thanks, that makes more sense. I guess I am not understanding the cycle fully. One thing that still isnt clear, the solenoid activated finger, when pushed all the way in, comes nowhere close to operating the lower payout fingers.

I was checking voltage at the wires at the top of the transformer, maybe thats my problem as well. I will check it at the termination block. It would be nice if it worked, I could just buy step up converter and leave machine internals original.

Re: Sega Bell Slot Lucky Devil Restoration

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 3:32 pm
by widget2k4
On the Lucky Horseshoe, which is basically the same. you got about 4 to 5 pulls before the timer ran out.
Maybe someone has bent the vertical finger to stop it from paying out on a win. It should contact them when fully pulled in and allow them to pay out the set amount.

Re: Sega Bell Slot Lucky Devil Restoration

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 4:13 pm
by treefrog
I have just finished a service, so I will test the feature on the minimum and maximum levels to see how it lasts. Although I loved the Horseshoe version, it was far more complex than these variants and I suspect it was not made by the same company. I made the same mistake testing the transformer and scraped off the enamel coating on the wires to test positive.
The 10 coin pay finger from the solenoid should trigger the first three slides. In fact no finger triggers more. The bar and melons are chopped and only trip the top lower finger which engages the microswitch.

I wish slot machine manufacturers of the period put all the key electrics inside boxes like Instones have. It reminds of that Allwin flasher Cyclone that had everything sealed in a box, as such protected from crap and damage.....

Re: Sega Bell Slot Lucky Devil Restoration

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 6:02 pm
by treefrog

Set to the high setting I got 12 jackpots.....and the lowest setting 2.....have now set somewhere in the middle to get 6 wins for the video !!THUMBSX2!!

You get a nice or worrying buzzing noise as the payout gubbins coil get to the end of their feature just before last payout....I guess activating the relay...

Not sure how you embed YouTube videos in posts.*

* Provided you don't put URL tags around the video address it embeds automatically. Site Admin.

Re: Sega Bell Slot Lucky Devil Restoration

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 11:57 pm
by thndrr
It's alive! That's fantastic!

Here is what I am seeing and isnt making sense. Here is a video of my mech cycling. Note the switch is never touched, mechanism cycled or resting. Would you mind sending me a video of your machine in the same cycle? With how mine is setup, the only way that switch is being pressed, is that finger entering a hole on the reel.

I can confirm you all are cooking with fire when it comes to the transformer. I get 12 volts out of it when measured at the block. Which is expected on US voltage. I am going to buy a step up converter.

Re: Sega Bell Slot Lucky Devil Restoration

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 1:12 am
by treefrog
See below video. I think the bar on my finger is more flush, so you have three choices:
1. Bend the bar so it does hit the relay switch.
2. Bend the finger.
3. You may be able to adjust the mount for the microswitch which has a single screw. I checked mine and there is some movement.

Yes, sounds like you need a voltage change to 240 or a multi voltage transformer.

Re: Sega Bell Slot Lucky Devil Restoration

Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2019 12:01 am
by thndrr
It's alive! I have it running on 220v, all issues resolved with the exception of the 'Lucky Devil' pay finger being off.

Rotating the mount for the solenoid microswitch with the fingers at rest did the trick. Solenoid has power and works properly when feature is enabled. Feature turns on from the jackpot pay finger, no issues. I am going to commence breaking the mechanism down to clean it after I adjust the feature pay finger.

Adjusting the knob on the control box, I timed the feature length at 11.25 seconds on one end to a whooping 110 seconds on the other.

On another note, I can't seem to find any shops that have the reel strips with the 'Devil' symbol.