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Silver Jubilee

Postby pennywise » Thu Jan 03, 2019 1:18 pm

Hi guys just got my hands on another Jubilee machine. I'm trying to find out when this machine was made. I'm guessing early '60s as my other was '67 but looked nothing like this one. Also does anyone know the original colour of this machine as I would like to get back to that colour but I would re powder coat in the blue as it does look quite nice. Any info on this would be great. 👍
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Re: Silver Jubilee

Postby treefrog » Thu Jan 03, 2019 3:26 pm

I am not an expert on Nutt and Muddle machines and now only own the one, the below blue one, which looks to have original hammered paint. I believe most of the original paints would have used this with various colours. Perhaps you can see on a chip if original paint is underneath.
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Re: Silver Jubilee

Postby pennywise » Thu Jan 03, 2019 6:48 pm

Thanks treefrog had a look but just looks like a flat paint but will know more when ive taken it apart, just finishing an aristocrat at the mo but think it must have been very close with colour because its blue everywhere even on the chips but has a red cash draw !PUZZLED!

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Re: Silver Jubilee

Postby treefrog » Thu Jan 03, 2019 9:10 pm

Your machine looks to have been converted to 2p and I wonder if the top casting was added at that time, but was obviously on 6D originally.

Odd very few companies wrote dates on paperwork in their machines, but what is nice is to see the company name “New Century Novelty Co” which seems to be referenced rarely, but is on Mr PM’s Slots Down Under section as a company created at the same time as Nutt and Muddle Co, but not clear why two names were created and how used, maybe help with dating them.
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Re: Silver Jubilee

Postby pennymachines » Thu Jan 03, 2019 11:02 pm

Dick Bueschel mentions the New Century Novelty Co. on page 232 of Lemons, Cherries & Bell-Fruit-Gum. He describes it as a "manufacturing arm" of Nutt & Muddle, formed presumably in the early '50s (Nutt & Muddle started in 1948).

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He tells us that at first the company made a Silver Jubilee MK1 from old Mills half-tops by creating a distinctive diamond front casing (with non-fruit reel strips), then in the early '50s brought out the Remade Silver Jubilee MK1 with their own mechanism (see above).

He then says:
The firm's first front-opener, the JUBILEE Mark II of 1959, was followed by a greatly restyled SILVER JUBILEE models (sic) in modern cabinets for the British market. After the successful introduction of these models at a trade show in 1962, the firm established a branch in London called Jubilee Products to serve the U.K. with slot machines produced on British soil.

The page Treefrog linked to shows the British Lions Rugby team holding a Silver Jubilee aloft at Nutt & Muddle's premises on 23rd July, 1962, in a celebration perhaps connected with that trade show.

So your guess as to date looks good, pennywise. The modern look and front opening were clues that these had to be post '50s. I need to revise some date estimates in the Pokies Gallery. The paperwork there shows an early advert for the '60s Silver Jubilee which mentions, "many colour combinations to blend with club interiors".

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Re: Silver Jubilee

Postby treefrog » Thu Jan 03, 2019 11:10 pm

Your down under article from Bob indicated the Novelty company was created at the same time as N&M in 1948, if so they seem to brand with this to the 60’s.....they also used Nutt and Muddle name for branding for same period of the same machines as seen in the flyers on your page......who knows....maybe an export thing using different names, as the Mal token site indicated the Novelty name was used in the U.K......

Just realised your info came from the Mal Token site......incredible info on this site
https://sites.google.com/site/malsmach2/aristocrat/n-m

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Re: Silver Jubilee

Postby pennymachines » Thu Jan 03, 2019 11:49 pm

Actually, I hadn't seen that page before - that information was from the documents kindly provided by Bob plus the Sydney Morning Herald piece posted to this forum in 2014. No doubt Mal's Token site found it there, but I agree it's excellent for researching our interest.

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Re: Silver Jubilee

Postby coppinpr » Fri Jan 04, 2019 11:04 am

Interesting check list on this machine. Can we assume this machine was not considered a "standard" model as on the check list "JP" is crossed out and the machine has no jackpot and "Standard" is also crossed out so... not a standard machine at the time?

My one seems to be a much later model(?) Mine had an interesting history: started life in the UK then went to France after decimalisation then returned to the UK when France adopted the Euro. When I removed the coin tray during restoration I found the space beneath crammed full of over 200 sixpences and just a few French coins. Clearly the odd coin kept slipping under the coin tray for years until it was jammed full, a few later Centimes managed to creep in. Notable that customs had failed to notice this hoard of what could have been anything... twice, going to France and coming back. :lol:
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Re: Silver Jubilee

Postby aristomatic » Fri Jan 04, 2019 12:59 pm

Nobody rang the number yet to see if anyone answers it?

The telephone number blanks off usual 777 and mystery payout spaces on the award card. If we see a pic of the mech out of the cabinet it will answer if 777 gold award mech parts are present/removed or just replaced by another mech.

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Re: Silver Jubilee

Postby pennywise » Sat Jan 05, 2019 10:50 am

Thanks for all the info guys. The more I look at this machine, the more I like it because it's plain and simple with a bit of Deco on the front. Taken pics of the mech but only found two numbers, one on the casting and two patent numbers on the back. This machine has not been butchered or drilled for the use with lights, so just wondering if I should put a couple of lights inside or leave as is? Looks to have a home-made coin overflow chute which is a bit tatty so I will try and replace that and the top front chrome where you put the coin in I might keep because when polished goes well with the full front of the body. Now colour-wise the only red is the cash drawer and a small bar on the back of the front cover for the cash box, but it has original locks and keys I think.
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