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Re: Australian Aristocrat Nevada "Quartette"

Postby badpenny » Mon Nov 10, 2014 2:23 pm

I've worked on two with the hopper payout.
One was a total dead loss as the gubbins in the top box (if I remember correctly) had lost three of its relays. Not the end of the world, but there was other infrastructure missing, including capacitors that were joined to nothing and numerous spaces where brackets had obviously once lived and probably supported switches and relays.

The other was more successful in so much as every fuse had gone, and after replacing a couple of melted internal plugs, it all just needed connecting up and a severe talking to.
I think the biggest fear with these is bits get removed either to get another one back on the road, or for testing, and then not replaced.
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Re: Australian Aristocrat Nevada "Quartette"

Postby treefrog » Mon Nov 10, 2014 8:28 pm

I have a few of the Aristocrat hopper machines, working and non working.....you stated it was working until about 10 years ago whn not used for some time, I would suspect then this is unlikely to be a major issue and checking connectors and fuses is the first place to start, especially the connector that attaches to the hopper you need to disconnect when pulling out. A common problem here is people forget to slowly pull out and unplug and just pull out yanking the plug, could be a simple connector issue. As I mentioned on a similar thread on the Hoots Mon Hopper issue, there is also a cut-out on these machines when jammed.

Your machine looks nice and an odd mixture of Kingsway, Nevada and Grosvenor. Unless Aussie distributed machines were made differently, it could be a mixture of these. Also what is on the left side as I see a shelf extension to the cabinet?

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Re: Australian Aristocrat Nevada "Quartette"

Postby aristomatic » Mon Nov 10, 2014 8:36 pm

the shelf is for the electromechanical repair mans toolkit to sit on.....

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Re: Australian Aristocrat Nevada "Quartette"

Postby morgs » Tue Nov 11, 2014 9:27 am

Cheers all for all the info and feedback. I've given it a good run today making sure everything was seated and it appears to be the hopper itself. Sometimes it won't engage on a win, sometimes it'll pay the correct amount and sometimes the incorrect amount, and the payout meter on the front doesn't flip past 1. Does anyone have the last few pages of the Regal manual by chance? The copy in Resources is missing the last 5 pages regarding the hopper. I thought it may be helpful. Thanks Treefrog, I'll definitely check out that Hoots Mon thread, and on the left is (what I assume to be) a shelf for a beer, ashtray etc., as the machine was collected from a golf club that closed down in the early-mid '80s. Also on the back of the shelf there's a switch which seems to have been used to turn the power on and off in a daisy chained row of machines.

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A few more newbie questions if I could. I was curious as to what some of the electrical components actually do.
This green mystery button?
edit: After poking around with a multimeter it appears to be connected to both the hopper and the top chip board, still stumped as to what it does though.

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My wild guess was that it is to open the slot for the coins to drop into the bottom tray rather than the hopper. Am I way off on this one?
edit: It appears I was, it seems once the "In" counter (next to the green mystery button) reaches a certain number, this slot should open.

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These fingers in the bottom with the two thin springs push toward the clock and engage the switches halfway along the side of the machine. What are they for and what triggers them?
edit: They are triggered by the bottom of the payout fingers pivoting into them. One for four A's, the other for four J's,Q's or K's. Still unsure as to what they are supposed trigger. I first thought 'the tune' as stated on the front panel, but found no signs of anything that should be audible.

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And these ones on the opposite side have me completely stumped.
edit: Could be to tell the chipboard the mech has reset..?

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Re: Aristocrat Hoots Mon bandit

Postby daveslot » Sat Nov 22, 2014 11:57 am

It seems I have burnt out a relay on mine, I don't know how. It's marked ad-32a1. Are these available anywhere?
Also, what does the red switch do, the one that's in the front left of the top box? It has a white button on it. I can do a pic if required.

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Re: Aristocrat Hoots Mon bandit

Postby treefrog » Sun Nov 23, 2014 9:29 am

Dave, I have a few of these or similar variants, but all in storage, so I can't look at this time. I may break one as the chrome is shot with some other issues, which may come in handy for spares. Will let you know.

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Aristocrat Hoots Mon/Quadreel/Quartette

Postby bandito » Sat Oct 10, 2015 5:07 pm

Topic merged - Site Admin.

Hi guys, I'm having problems with the payouts on my hoots mon bandit. It wasn't paying out properly when I got it. I have checked all payout micro switches and all seem fine. I think the problem is with the payout pins as shown in the picture. If someone has a working machine with correct payouts would they be kind enough to post a picture similar to mine so I can compare the order of those pins. Thanks.
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Re: Aristocrat 4 reel hoots mon wiring help

Postby treefrog » Sun Oct 11, 2015 10:10 pm

I did check one of mine and the pins look correct, although I had a bad picture I took, but they do look the same....

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Re: Aristocrat 4 reel hoots mon wiring help

Postby gameswat » Mon Oct 12, 2015 3:40 am

Ahhh, if this is one of those mid to late '70s hopper models with early electronics then good luck. I just had one in to service for a friend and wasted a huge amount of time and never got it truly sorted. Not one tech friend in Perth wanted to know about it! You'd think there would be circuit diagrams available in Aust, but there aren't. I tried and came up with absolutely nothing that would help. Machine would occasionally payout the wrong amounts on jackpots, but like 50 instead of 40, always to rounded numbers. Biggest issue was sometimes not making the full payouts on large amounts, which if that happened would stop any future payouts of any kind when you kept playing. But I found a button inside on the top lhd which a service man could push to complete any unfinished payouts. So after exhausting every other attempt, I ended up having to move that service wiring to a new button mounted in a formally blanked off hole on the outside of the front door. I then made a decal to go just below the button into a vacant casting telling you to push for incomplete payouts. Actually fixed the incomplete payout issues - just in a rather crude way. !PUNISH!

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Re: Aristocrat 4 reel hoots mon wiring help

Postby coppinpr » Mon Oct 12, 2015 7:34 am

It sounds from what GS says that the makers had a problem with this from the start and fitted what amounts to a reset button to get round it.


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