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Posted: **Sun Jan 05, 2020 4:54 pm**

gameswat wrote: ↑Sun Jan 05, 2020 3:55 pm This looks like it might be an ex Australian operated machine since it still operates with the poker reel symbols, and only guaranteed amounts for a jackpot allowed in Aust back then. The award card looks correct for this machine to me, or is it just the payout amounts aren't correct?

The award card that I have is an Aristocrat issued card from 1967 as stated in very tiny script on the bottom of the card. The payouts on both cards are the same.
I assumed that the card as pictured would be the right one?
I found Australian and UK sixpence coins in the machine. Really don't know if the machine is all Australian.

Posted: **Sun Jan 05, 2020 5:49 pm**

This is a picture from the coin mechanism when the machine is at rest

I don't think that is correct. I think the long arm should be in the up position at rest (taking the small lever with it). The pin above is definitely a spring retainer, perhaps a "belt and braces" device to make sure the lever returned to the up position, although there seems to be no suitable retainer for the spring on the lever.

My clubmaster is at the back of the room but I'll try and pull it forward to see if mine is like Special's.

Posted: **Sun Jan 05, 2020 6:14 pm**

Thanks Coppinpr.

Posted: **Sun Jan 05, 2020 6:34 pm**

I think you better sell it to me so I can put it beside his family member.

Posted: **Sun Jan 05, 2020 6:44 pm**

Nice Clubman Dutchboy...
I don't think I will let my Clubmaster go.
I even think of buying a sister Clubman if one pops up.
Where are you located?

Posted: **Sun Jan 05, 2020 7:03 pm**

The reason for the side view was it looked like your machine was half cocked. I can see that is not the case, but does look like the operating arm has not returned all the way up to push the coin acceptor arm up. Yes, a spring should be there which holds the acceptor arm up when the machine is operated...

A full picture from the front would help to see if it is hitting the arm stop. Yours looks like a late mechanism. Does the serial number match the side plate?

Gameswat, I think your point on poker reels has come up before. I believe all Clubmasters imported were with them to the U.K., probably from new and somewhere revamped later to fruits. Poker reels also were released on some Sheerline style models in the U.K...

Posted: **Sun Jan 05, 2020 7:05 pm**

john279 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 05, 2020 4:54 pm The award card that I have is an Aristocrat issued card from 1967 as stated in very tiny script on the bottom of the card.

If it has come from Australia second hand then that 1967 dated card would have been used to update all operating machines in Aust., as we went decimal in 1966. I imagine the coins printed around the edge of the card are the new 5 cents pieces that replaced the old 6d? If so, they likely used a denominator button glued over the 6d coin entry casting, or a decal of some kind to show the new 5 cent operation, as they rarely ever replaced castings over here. I certainly wouldn't remove it as the card it came with is one of the nicest and most colorful I've ever seen on an Aussie slot. That yellow version is bland in comparison.

Posted: **Sun Jan 05, 2020 7:31 pm**

treefrog wrote: ↑Sun Jan 05, 2020 7:03 pm A full picture from the front would help to see if it is hitting the arm stop. Yours looks like a late mechanism. Does the serial number match the side plate?

I'll take some pictures from frontside tomorrow. I don't believe the numbers match.

Posted: **Sun Jan 05, 2020 7:49 pm**

Hi john I’m located in Hoofddorp near Schiphol. I think there should be a spring at the pin and there is also a bug blanking of a hole in the payout disc of reel no one? Both marked in picture.

Posted: **Mon Jan 06, 2020 2:13 pm**

john279 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 05, 2020 7:31 pm
treefrog wrote: ↑Sun Jan 05, 2020 7:03 pm A full picture from the front would help to see if it is hitting the arm stop. Yours looks like a late mechanism. Does the serial number match the side plate?

I'll take some pictures from frontside tomorrow. I don't believe the numbers match.

Posted: **Mon Jan 06, 2020 2:35 pm**

It might be my eyes, but where I have shown your operating arm with red arrow below, it looks like it is not going up to the stop.

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If you look at my machine below, the arm comes to rest on the green stop. Does yours, or is there a gap? If so, what happens if you try and lift the operating arm up highlighted in yellow? Does it move?

Yes, your mechanism is from a later machine, probably either a Nevada or Sheerline type. It has a nylon bush on the operating arm lever and nylon star wheels on the reels. I guess swapped in the past.

Posted: **Mon Jan 06, 2020 3:15 pm**

I just posted a picture from the front of the machine as requested.
I also add a picture with what's going on with the machine right now.

I added a spring between E and E, so the little lever comes up now and the coin can fall into the slot.
Actually, the coin doesn't fall into the slot; it falls on rod D-D (that rod is sticking through the coin slot hole 1cm when the machine is at rest).
When I move lever B a little bit backwards, the coin falls through into the slot.
When I move lever B a little bit more backwards, I bypass the coin mechanism, so A and A do not bind anymore and I can cock the machine and it cycles as it should.
When I move lever C a little bit up, as soon as the coin fell into the slot A and A do not bind anymore and I can cock the machine.
So, why do A and A still bind when I pull the handle?

Posted: **Mon Jan 06, 2020 3:22 pm**

You never answer either of my questions. The issue you have is that the coin detector lever you describe should not be poking through the hole and block the coin and is pulled back when the operating lever returns to the stop I asked about

Posted: **Mon Jan 06, 2020 3:27 pm**

I'm sorry treefrog, our answers crossed.
On one of my pictures that I took today, I can see that the arm is not all the way up.
I'll check tomorrow morning why the arm is not going all the way up.

Posted: **Mon Jan 06, 2020 3:35 pm**

This is likely to be the issue, as when it returns all the way up the coin check lever will pull back.

Posted: **Mon Jan 06, 2020 5:21 pm**

I've worked on quite a few mechs that jammed because of a loose coin falling into the works, I pretty much look for that first thing before getting too into it.

Posted: **Mon Jan 06, 2020 5:48 pm**

I dont believe this is the problem,but,the machine looks from the photos to be a little too clean,there seems ,from the photos at least, to be be no oil anywhere,of course you dont want any grease,and no heavy oil but a little light oil is needed on the moving parts that dont come into contact with coins. perhaps we just cant see the oil in the photos

Posted: **Mon Jan 06, 2020 6:09 pm**

Certainly coins could be causing a problem if they are on edge on the top of the coin tube which is full, as if the coin overflow lever cannot move forward because a stack of coins are on end at the top of the tube the lever will stop the rest of it returning to its finished state. Have a look at the lever below. Is it free, as it will move forward as the main operating lever lifts up?

Posted: **Mon Jan 06, 2020 8:13 pm**

Guys,
I'll check those things tomorrow... I think the lever pointed by the red arrow is free. Also like to know what the function of B is (it's spring operated, no clue what it's for).

Posted: **Mon Jan 06, 2020 10:32 pm**

This is part of the coin detector part of the mechanism. As the operating lever is operated, B moves towards the coin, if no coin is detected or a washer is used it will pass through without operating the coin lever that allows play.

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