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Re: The advent of motors in pinball

Posted: Mon May 27, 2019 1:08 pm
by bob
cait001 is "pretty sure that Bumper does not award replays" and has "played 2 different copies and none had replays awarded anywhere." But that does not mean that they were conserved or restored correctly or that either current owner of these machines understood their operation fully.
I have owned both Bumper and Skipper and was fortunate to have all the considerable amount of paperwork that Bally shipped to the original operator for both these machines. I still have copes of this paperwork although it has taken me some time to locate these among all my printed material.
Included in these these is a full page of instructions for Bumper entitled "Free Games Adjustment" another sheet entitled "Instructions To Merchant (i.e. the operator) concerning the Free Games Meter and a number of Instruction cards to use on the machine. All of these are clearly marked Bumper and item number in small print at the left bottom corner. I will scan these items and add them to this posting. There are also sheets dealing with Adjustment of Score Projector, Operating Instructions to set up the machine, Adjustments of Contacts in Lightbox as well as a Wiring Diagram.
Playing or owning a machine does not always mean one understands its operation fully. In my time I have come across some quite knowledgeable people who were not aware of their machine's complexities. I owned a Bally Mazooma Bell "flasher" for many years until I was able to find a Manual and schematic for it and only then did I understand some of its workings.

Re: The advent of motors in pinball

Posted: Mon May 27, 2019 1:34 pm
by cait001
The men in that Skipper advertisement totally look like they're about to do CRIMES

Re: The advent of motors in pinball

Posted: Mon May 27, 2019 1:56 pm
by cait001
bob wrote: Mon May 27, 2019 1:08 pm cait001 is "pretty sure that Bumper does not award replays" He has "played 2 different copies and none had replays awarded anywhere." But that does not mean that they were conserved or restored correctly or that either current owner of these machines understood their operation fully.
SHE, please.
Thanks for the documentation, but why are you presenting it like a prosecutor giving opening arguments to a judge? ;)

Re: The advent of motors in pinball

Posted: Mon May 27, 2019 2:07 pm
by bob
Skipper pinballs were common in the "pinball parlours" (penny arcades) of my youth in 1940s Melbourne. Whilst there were sometimes some scary characters, the guys in the advertisement looked more like the policemen of the time who gave the owners of arcades a hard time.

Re: The advent of motors in pinball

Posted: Mon May 27, 2019 2:22 pm
by bob
Dear "SHE" I am delighted to learn that I am talking to SHE, what a stupid presumption for me to have made.

I didn't think I had presented it like a prosecutor giving opening arguments to a judge but rather that I could back up my beliefs and memories by some documentation and memories of my youth. Do cut me some slack at age 88 when I can remember things clearly from over 75 years ago but not what I did five minutes ago.

Re: The advent of motors in pinball

Posted: Mon May 27, 2019 4:06 pm
by cait001
88! dang !!THUMBSX2!!

Re: The advent of motors in pinball

Posted: Mon May 27, 2019 9:45 pm
by ddstoys
Midway used motors to control the score reels in some of their games. My 1966 Captain Kidd shooting gallery has a motor. I'm starting to wonder if my Midway Raceway uses a motor for the scores but it does have two to drive the back boxcars.

Re: The advent of motors in pinball

Posted: Sun Jun 02, 2019 3:38 pm
by ralph
Speaking of early em pinball motors, a machine over here needs a new motor. The machine is a 1935 Bally Jumbo.


Jumbo Payout Motor
Jumbo Payout Motor


Jumbo Payout Motor
Jumbo Payout Motor

The coin payout motor is burnt out.
Trying to help out an old repairer I know that has it in for repairs. I was looking for any tips for either re wiring it or another motor.
The flyer states that you can order either the coin payout or tickets payout model.
Lovely looking machine this one is, cool little slide out draw that opens out to collect won coins.(Flyer pic).
Thanks in advance .
All pics are from the IPDB