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Bryan’s Pilwin convert & replace backflash

Postby pauljt71 » Thu Nov 21, 2019 9:51 am

Hi folks,

I have decided to convert my machines back to old penny. I am starting with my Pilwin 56. Any advise on how or where to get/make the coin hopper as mine is missing completely and has been replaced by one that holds new penny.
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Re: Bryan’s Pilwin convert back to old penny

Postby arrgee » Thu Nov 21, 2019 10:20 am

Hi pauljt71, these are always difficult to source and it is extremely rare to see them on any bidding site or auction, best short-term bet would be to have one made up by a local metalworker, may even be able to modify your existing coin hopper

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Re: Bryan’s Pilwin convert back to old penny

Postby gameswat » Thu Nov 21, 2019 10:36 am

I've had to make and convert countless payouts like that back to Old Penny, none for Bryans allwins though. And I often found the correct diameter brass tube was often used in old style garden sprayers, the ones with a bike pump hand piece, usually attached to a backpack tin holding the chemical. And also some old floor type car/bike pumps had the correct tubing. It's much easier ( and cheaper!) to recycle pre-metric metal tubing than waste a lot of time machining oversize to the correct diameters.

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Re: Bryan’s Pilwin convert back to old penny

Postby pauljt71 » Thu Nov 21, 2019 12:41 pm

Thanks for the info, loving this site. 😀 I will keep you updated with pictures as I progress.

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Pilwin back flash replacement

Postby pauljt71 » Wed Nov 27, 2019 6:45 pm

Topic merged - Site Admin.

Hi Guys,

Thought I would share some pics of my Pilwin through the process of replacing a back flash to return it to play again. Many thanks to Lenny at Retro Arcade for supplying me with a great replacement that looks just like the old one, minus the ripples!

The whole process took about 3 hours. It’s my first attempt. Going to do my Elevenses next 😀
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Re: Pilwin back flash replacement

Postby treefrog » Thu Nov 28, 2019 9:33 am

Well done, looks good !!THUMBSX2!!

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Re: Bryan’s Pilwin convert back to old penny

Postby pauljt71 » Fri Nov 29, 2019 9:36 pm

Well it’s finished, backflash replaced and converted back to old penny. I have to say it plays so differently with old pennies 😀
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Re: Bryan’s Pilwin convert & replace backflash

Postby john t peterson » Sat Nov 30, 2019 2:43 pm

Cracker Jack job, Pauljt 71 ! I'm happy to see there is still enthusiasm for the old allwins out there.

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Re: Bryan’s Pilwin convert & replace backflash

Postby arrgee » Sat Nov 30, 2019 4:43 pm

Well done pauljt 71 a good tidy job, and the next project will be?

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Re: Bryan’s Pilwin convert & replace backflash

Postby pennymachines » Sat Nov 30, 2019 5:05 pm

Well done Paul on an excellent job reviving your Pilwin so that it can be enjoyed again.
pauljt71 wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2019 6:45 pm
Many thanks to Lenny at Retro Arcade for supplying me with a great replacement that looks just like the old one, minus the ripples!
The point at which it's better to replace an old backflash, try to flatten it, or leave well alone, has been much discussed and comes down to personal preference. There's no right answer that we'll all agree upon. Also, things can look worse or better than they really are in photographs. However, before everyone rushes to replace their less than perfect Elevenses and Pilwin flashes with Retro Arcade reproductions, I should point out that the Bryan's fans amongst us will know 'in a flash' it's not original. And not just because it's flat. I don't dispute Retro Arcade's claim that, "colours are a perfect match to the original", but it's apparent from the images above that they're less saturated. The reason, I believe, is that they're printed on card. The texture of card (or paper) diffuses the reflected light and, although the plastic encapsulation enhances it (like varnish over wood), it can't match the intensity of colour screen-printed plastic.

This is more observation than complaint. There isn't an ideal solution. Unfortunately, the economics of bespoke screen printing seems to rule out perfect reproduction plastic flashes.
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