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Hello
I just bought these two machines and would appreciate to know more about them. For instance what are they called, approximately when were they made?
Thanks in advance!
Robert

Nice finds!
The Atlantic-Flieger (Atlantic Flyer) was made by Friedrich Giese, Automatenbau Atlantic, Berlin in 1929. Details and images at Automatix-Club. You try to drop a bomb from the aircraft onto the target. Each time you play, the target shifts a bit to the left or right. A hit rotates the coin wheel for a payout.

I know nothing about the other one, but imagine it is also German.

Thank you for this information. I am having both delivered in a few days!

Here is the aircraft image apparently missing from your game.

Thank you for the image, great to have!

Nice video See also Atlantic Flyer adverts

Hey.

There were a lot of different Atlantic-machines on the market around 1928-1930. This was mainly the case because the Bajazzo (Clown) was banned by legal authorities.
A lot of manufacturers developed modifications for existing Bajazzo-machines. This was a lucrative business, because there were tens of thousands of Bajazzos just in Berlin.
Here are two ads from the year 1929 for Atlantic-machines. They were sold as stand-alone machine or modification for existing Bajazzo/Clown machines:






The "Atlantic Flieger" by Friedrich Giese was a stand-alone machine only and not provided as a modification:



The Atlantic (most versions) were patented by Giese under DRP472272:

Thank you very much for your post. Very interesting. Thanks for sharing.

Just wondering why the Bajazzo [Clown] machines were banned yet the Atlantic machines were not banned when they are not too dissimilar?

13rebel wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 9:07 pm Just wondering why the Bajazzo [Clown] machines were banned yet the Atlantic machines were not banned when they are not too dissimilar?

The Bajazzo was banned in the late 1920s in most districts, because it was declared by a lot of legal experts as a gambling machine. The bajazzo/clown was produced in Germany since 1910 and there has always been different legal views by the courts and police offices.
The crucial point were the pins above the cup and the unpredictable change of direction of the ball caused by those pins. This was seen as a game of luck (which was strictly forbidden) and not as a game of skill. The Atlantic has no pins. The ball falls down in a straight line without being deflected by any obstacles.

Around 1906/1907 there were some coin-catchers on the german market, like the famous "Zeppelin". They worked on the same principles as the Bajazzo/Clown. Prof. Richard Kockel, the most important legal expert for such machines at this time, examined the "Zeppelin" with new technologies like slow motion shots in 1909:




He declared the "Zeppelin" as a game of luck, so it was banned around 1909.


There were a lot of different modifications of old Bajazzo-machines besides the Atlantic between 1927-1930:








Most of them were also banned in the early 30s.

Excellent, informative post, joerg_gm. Thanks!

J Peterson
Retired Atlantic Flyer, USA

Thank you joerg-gm for explaining that in such an interesting way.

Yes, thank you joerg for those really interesting posts and some great flyers. Slow-mo photography to prove a legal point in 1909 - who would have thought?