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1920s Soccer game 2 man "Tempo" help

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2020 3:32 pm
by gameswat
Just about to get going on this one and wondering if someone has an example to share photos of please? I'm missing a couple doors and the bent tube stand, but do have some photos of the attached complete machine on legs residing in a German museum. My example being an export model on Penny with English instructions thankfully. And nice Freddie Bolland supplier decals on either end. Does state on the glass locking plates that it was Patent applied for, but have never come across anything as yet, though it was a long time ago I first searched. I don't even remember coming across a specific date for the machine either? Guessing late '20s. Not listed on the German Automatix site strangely. Cheers.

Re: 1920's Soccer game 2 man "Tempo" help

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2020 7:44 pm
by bryans fan
I am afraid that I am unable to offer any information which will help. I have found three pictures stored on my Hard drive which are of a similar, single player, machine.
Good luck, I look forward to seeing your pictures and reading your account during the restoration |/XX\|

Good job the glass was intact, a replacement would be pricey!

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Re: 1920's Soccer game 2 man "Tempo" help

Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2020 5:34 am
by gameswat
Thanks Bryans. The awkward proportions of that machine make me think it might be an operator conversion to single player!?

Re: 1920's Soccer game 2 man "Tempo" help

Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2020 10:07 am
by bryans fan
gameswat wrote: Tue Apr 21, 2020 5:34 am The awkward proportions of that machine make me think it might be an operator conversion to single player!?
Not sure about that. Would the glass not pose a problem to cut?
I have found another couple of pics of a different game, but with similarities. I have attached for reference, rather than I think they are of any help.

Re: 1920's Soccer game 2 man "Tempo" help

Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2020 11:39 am
by gameswat
Glass isn't hard to cut with the correct diamond blades and water for cooling. But pretty sure that single player version has a plastic dome. And note it doesn't use the original acid etched name plate straps to hold the dome in place, or the original outer steel frame to protect the glass. Though as the base/floor wood looks like a much smaller pine replacement maybe the frame went missing with the original base? My safety frame is currently dismantled in the photos to save space.

Re: 1920's Soccer game 2 man "Tempo" help

Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2020 11:43 am
by gameswat
PM posted these adverts a while ago and this could be the one for my Tempo game? German football counter-top game adverts

Re: 1920's Soccer game 2 man "Tempo" help

Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2020 12:28 pm
by bryans fan
-/00\- !SHERLOCK! CoNgRaTs

Re: 1920's Soccer game 2 man "Tempo" help

Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2020 2:45 pm
by pennymachines
gameswat wrote: Tue Apr 21, 2020 5:34 am The awkward proportions of that machine make me think it might be an operator conversion to single player!?
I was offered one of those a few years ago, the first I'd seen. I don't think it's a conversion.

Forum member Luckystar had the same version as yours GW, but many years ago. I will hunt for pictures.

Apart from replacing the ceramic trigger handles with pistols, the German games are pretty much clones of Gustave Staar's Football Staar, which was patented in 1926 (the machine in BF's second post). Patent GB275937

Pictures of various versions, but again of little help to you: