Beromat bremse one arm bandit

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Beromat bremse one arm bandit

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Hi, we have a Beromat bremse one arm bandit machine and we are looking for information, diagrams, anything really that could help with the restoration process. Also, I'm in need of parts. The machine is in working order. The original back we have is in bad condition, so looking for an original back, and there is a spring missing, and possibly some other bits from the arm mechanism. It's not holding the coin into place. When we drop a coin into the machine, it falls straight through into the coin box. Everything else is in working order.
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Re: Beromat bremse one arm bandit

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Hi and welcome to the forum.
Many of us collect these machines and there are limited spares about. Most of us at some point or another buy one as a breaker.
It's possible the coin gate only needs a spring. It's unusual that the whole coin stop would be missing. Post a photo of that part and someone will soon tell you if it looks wrong.
Your mention of needing an original back is confusing. Do you mean the rear portion of the case, or just the back panel? A rear half of the case I'd think is next to impossible to find, and most of us have replaced just the ply back panel.

I'd just like to point out there is a Market for Wanted and For Sale adverts (https://pennymachines.co.uk/market/advertise/) if you want to buy something you can place photos of what you need.

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Re: Beromat bremse one arm bandit

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:WELCOME: la1606ura!
Must say, that's a particularly nice Beromat, with the striking Art Deco castings and striped veneer.
'Bremse', by the way, is German for 'Brake' (or 'horsefly' :o ) - i.e. it refers to the button's function.
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What is missing?

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I posted earlier about our Beromat bremse bandit. I've attached a photo of the arm mechanism. Can anybody tell me what is missing please? I tried to attach a video but it won't allow me to upload the file. When you drop a penny into the machine, the mechanism isn't holding the coin, it's just falling straight through into the coin release tube.
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Re: Beromat bremse one arm bandit

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Hi there,

It was me who pointed you here from Sphock. There is a spring needed between the two parts marked in red below. It is a short strong spring that holds the coin in place until operated.

Also what does your rear door look like, as it may help understand how bad it is.....?
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Re: Beromat bremse one arm bandit

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The back. It's damaged around the edges it's also rotted possibly damp from where it used to be stored.
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It's difficult to judge from pictures, but I think you have two options with that. Spares aren't available, and chances are a junker will have a worse back. So you can glue, fill and patch, strip off the peeling outer sheet and cut and glue a new piece to cover... or if you think it's too far gone, source some good quality birch ply and remake it.
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Re: Beromat bremse one arm bandit

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My photo shows the spring the guys have mentioned. But isn't part of the arm missing too? It opens the spring to allow a coin to drop into the cash box when the handle is pulled and then closes it at the end of the cycle to allow another coin to lock the handle and operate the arm. I'm a bit hazy on this because my machine has been modified for British old pennies so the operation might be different, I suppose.

As for the back, I would definitely go for a new ply back. If you are going to wall mount it, it needs to be strong and well fixed. I was lucky with mine and it only needed a little refixing with more screws.
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Re: Beromat bremse one arm bandit

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Thanks for that. I have seen pictures of the mechanism with the bar across but I've also seen them without it, so not sure if it's necessary. I'm guessing I'll find out if we attach a new spring and it still doesn't work aha. The machine we have belonged to my grandad. He had it converted to British pennies (1P's).
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Re: Beromat bremse one arm bandit

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More than likely he had it converted from British 1d coins to 1p coins, as there were thousands of these on 1d in the UK due to the strange German laws that insisted they be broken up or exported after only three years of life. A pity to lose the 1d play, but in some ways, it's a blessing. The original conversions to 1d meant drilling out the coin slides which, considering the whole machine is made of very poor metal, made them very weak. Slides drilled for 1p would be much stronger.
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