ID which brand/model is this allwin ?

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ID which brand/model is this allwin ?

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Anyone familiar with this model?
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Re: ID which brand/model is this allwin ?

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Judging by the radio silence, you have us stumped with this one bamsefar1.
It has some things in common with a BMco allwin, but not much, and it has some things in common with a Saxony allwin. I can't even decide if it's German or British, but leaning towards British, partly because of the scrolled gallery backplate and partly because there were many more makers of allwins in the UK.

The most unusual feature is the hammer box with its concave top. Don't think I've seen that before. It's also odd that you can see the edges of the hinge leaves. Normally only the knuckles are visible.
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Interesting, wonder what the little turn knob is on the front, lower right, seems to be connected to a lever arm in the mech. I'm wondering whether this could be a multi-ball machine - 3 balls for a 1d ? hence the little window under the gallery and this turn knob releases the 'held' balls out through the hole at the top of the curved hammer box.
Just a thought
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Yes, it's a reserve ball allwin and the little knob feeds the individual balls to the striker. J&M allwins did this automatically, but I've seen both German and British allwins with manual ball feed.
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Ah, that makes sense, I see that the 'lost' cups are in fact the 'reserve' cups
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Re: ID which brand/model is this allwin ?

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Thanks for the input so far.
It most certainly is a UK model; as I got it shipped (ebay-auction) quite a few years ago from the UK. It was listed as a 1920s allwin. So this is a rare bird in Norway where I live.

Gameplay:
1d (penny) inserted; releases one ball.
The ball is catapulted into the playfield; and drops into either a "win" or "lost" slot.
Falling into "lost" is "game over".
Falling into "win"; releases 3 balls+ one coin.

As some of you suspected; the "wheel" - knob on the right; releases one ball at a time into the playfield/catapult-area.

I made a brief video:

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bamsefar1 wrote: Sun May 02, 2021 5:02 pm It most certainly is a UK model; as I got it shipped (ebay-auction) quite a few years ago from the UK.
I think it is British, but because you bought it from the UK doesn't mean it was made here. A high proportion of allwins in our arcades, particularly pre-war, came from Germany, and some from France.
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Sorry for being so assertive; as I can only assume and guess. I was under belief these kind of allwins were made in the UK.
I know some about German classic "pennymachines"; as the flick-a-coin /drop-case-kind of wall machines were made early in Germany. Perhaps originated there.
But what about the period between the world wars.... Was there much commerce between the UK and Germany with these kind of objects? :-)
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bamsefar1 wrote: Mon May 03, 2021 3:35 pm But what about the period between the world wars.... Was there much commerce between the UK and Germany with these kind of objects?
There was. Most allwins were imported into Britain from Germany during the interwar period. See Seven mysteries of the Saxony allwin
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Eye-opener for me this.
Thanks for the enlightment! :-)
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