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Re: Bingolett..... help please!

Postby coppinpr » Mon Mar 21, 2011 9:43 am

My Bingolett, which started this thread, is not doing well. Despite being almost perfect as far as the case and glass, I simply can't get anywhere getting it to work. I've had lots of great help from the Forum, especially Slotalot, who put a lot of time into it online but it simply won't reset. As far as I can see, all the relays work, as well as the main motor, but it won't work in the correct order, leading to a reset. Several of the relays come on as soon as the machine is switched on (before a coin is added) and stay on all the time; the lights don't come on except for a couple that flash during the attempt to reset. The motor starts when a coin is added but stops as soon as the switch on cam 1 reaches its first notch.

I'm no expert and live right down South on the coast, so I don't know of anyone nearby who can fix for me, so looks like I'll have to give up on it. A great pity, I really like this machine. I even think I've managed to get a payout unit (from a different type of machine) that will fit but not much good if the rest won't work.

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Re: Bingolett..... help please!

Postby gameswat » Mon Mar 21, 2011 1:46 pm

Coppinpr, I don't think you'd do too well dealing with a lot of my collection! :dammit: I've had machines that I've had to walk away from for years until I either came across the right info or learnt the right skills to solve the problems, some still to be conquered. The trick is to never give up. The problems are almost always small and quite simple, but the consequences of those problems can be major and very time consuming to find and then repair properly. Honestly one of the best things to do when you're really stumped is to walk away and forget about it for awhile. Then at some later time - sometimes 30 mins, sometimes 3 years!! An idea will pop into your head and you can look again with a fresh perspective. Helps to be a lateral thinker I guess. I've seen some wacky problems in my time so don't be afraid to come up with wacky theories. Good luck!!

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Re: Bingolett..... help please!

Postby coppinpr » Mon Mar 21, 2011 2:19 pm

Oh I never intended to give up! In fact my view is much the same as yours, I've put it on the back burner and started on the Rol-a-Top copy I've had sitting waiting for two months LOL. By the time I've finished that the Bingolett will definitely appeal again !!JUNK!!

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Re: Bingolett..... help please!

Postby raj » Mon Mar 21, 2011 7:04 pm

I've had a few Bingolettes over the years, great machines when they are working, but a complete pain when not. I suspect the cam contacts are the source of your problem, either someone has tweaked them out of adjustment so that a normally open contact is now closed, or one has gone light and is not signalling an end of cycle event. Don't file them to 'clean' them as this destroys the contact metal and the subsequent burn in pattern. Either use contact cleaner or gently burnish with something non abrasive. Best of luck!!!

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Re: Bingolett..... help please!

Postby operator bell » Fri Apr 15, 2011 3:28 am

coppinpr wrote:The motor starts when a coin is added but stops as soon as the switch on cam 1 reaches its first notch.
It's supposed to. At that point the ball should drop. When you flip it and it falls back into its place, the cam motor runs again briefly and drops it. This happens twice, then when the ball ends up back in its holder the third time the cam motor runs all the way out to rest position, clicking the payout contacts - you can hear it, tick-tick-tick-..ten times.

On that first partial turn of the cams, contact 4 pulls in the "kugel sperre" (reset relay K). Cam contact 3 pulses three times, feeding pulses to each of the four stepping switches through the reset relay and each of their home contacts so they will step one, two, three (or none) steps to get them back home. It's normal for the lights to flash as this happens. If yours are not resetting, it probably means the home contact on one or more of the step switches is not opening. That will be the one that always does three steps when you put a coin in. The home contact is number 1 on each switch.

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Re: Bingolett..... help please!

Postby malcymal » Fri Apr 15, 2011 10:04 am

Could you try getting in touch with Harold English who I consider the ultimate guru on German slots? I think he is Englishman on the forums and I'm sure he would fathom it out fairly quickly. My Rialto and Bergmann Hobby came from him. OK, a trip up north but you might be able to source some other machines from him at same time. He does have some amazing slots. Malc

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Re: Bingolett..... help please!

Postby speedwell » Sat Apr 16, 2011 8:42 pm

I have a Rialto which is very similar. Please don't shoot me down in flames but do you have a coin blockage at any time? I found mine would not reset simply because of that... Malcymal is right, Harold is the man but not well at the moment and maybe not able to help right now....

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Re: Bingolett..... help please!

Postby slotalot » Sun Apr 17, 2011 8:43 am

speedwell wrote: Harold is the man but not well at the moment and maybe not be able to help right now ....
I hope Harold is feeling better :console: ,anyone know whats wrong with him?

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Re: Bingolett..... help please!

Postby Englishman11 » Wed May 11, 2011 10:23 pm

Hi Guys, Harold English here ( Englishman11)... Reason I have not been around, I have been diagnosed with the Big C so machines have taken a back seat - sold over 60 of my machines, complete, for parts, for restoration and some of my really fine stuff.. Most of my stuff now is German, some are bargains and some so rare that you probably have never seen them ... Always avaiable for a chat or visit me to break up the monotony - take care .... H [ 01663734481]

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Re: Bingolett..... help please!

Postby treefrog » Wed May 11, 2011 10:34 pm

Harold,
Sorry to hear this, really bad news, but I hope you under the circumstance are holding out and enjoying life as well as you can.......

I have yet to have buy a machine from you, but have bought many parts over the last few years, but would love to drop by over the next few months.....

Good luck and all our best wishes go with you through this difficult time and hope things change on a positive side.....


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