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Re: Australian Wineasies & showman's paint

Postby gameswat » Thu Jul 26, 2012 10:28 pm

NZ manufacture, late '60s or '70s. The formica is always a giveaway but NZ went decimal in 1967, while Aust was a year earlier. They also call these Flap Ball sometimes.

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Re: Australian Wineasies & showman's paint

Postby pennymachines » Sat Aug 04, 2012 1:31 pm

Another one:
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Re: Australian Wineasies & showman's paint

Postby arrgee » Thu Sep 06, 2012 3:32 pm

Gameswat wrote:That BMCO Moon and Stars Penny shoot is the same one I bought out of NZ a few years ago Bob. And I seem to remember him saying something about it having come from Aust? Though someone stripped it and stained a darker colour.
BMCo never cease to amaze me, they were so prolific in allwin production/design. The 'moon and stars' case is the same as their very early 'all winners' machine with its automatic penny return, although the moon/stars machine has the penny return cup in the same position as another BMCo auto penny return: The Wizard - I wonder if the moon/stars allwin has the same mech as the Wizard?

The other machine that intrigues me is the pink allwin. This is confusing as it has all the hallmarks of the BMCo 'coin repeat wall machine' which had an automatic payout mechanism of ingenious design, but there is a manual payout knob which suggests the auto mech has been replaced by a traditional allwin mech (I have seen this done before to these coin repeat machines). The playfield is a curious combination of BMCo allwin types: the 'Playball' with its straight gallery and the 'Airplane/Flyer' with it aircraft cups and propeller motif, and with the 2 rows of inclined pins leading to the aircraft cups it is reminiscent of the 'Cresta Run' 2 cup and pins version.
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Re: Australian Wineasies & showman's paint

Postby gameswat » Fri Sep 07, 2012 2:57 am

Argee, the Moon and Stars has no mech to say of, just some chutes for a simple coin loss to the cashbox or win straight back to you. I spent some time on this one trying to get it firing properly, as someone had converted it from Pennies to Half-Pennies. Put it back but still not quite right and is still awaiting the time to look at it again. :roll:

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Re: Australian Wineasies & showman's paint

Postby arrgee » Fri Sep 07, 2012 8:33 am

Interesting, have you seen others like this Gameswat that appear to be BMCo?

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Re: Repair help: Brenner Allwin Ball Past the Arrow please

Postby garrick » Fri Nov 11, 2016 6:34 am

The most common allwin in New Zealand that I can remember (70s/80s) was this one —

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There were probably others but the 5c machine above was by far the one you were likely to see in fish & chip shops and arcades.

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Re: Australian Wineasies & showman's paint

Postby gameswat » Mon Nov 21, 2016 4:57 pm

I think that this machine in Australia as posted by Bob earlier in the topic is in fact an unusual Allwin manufactured by Handan-Ni / London Automatic Machine Co. The cabinet style and square plate on the front of the machine is the exactly same as used by Handan-Ni on games like Domino. And the Penny return chute looks almost the same. The blank square plate as seen on the recently sold Domino machine in New Zealand was used to cover a hole left after the original token release mechanism was removed, which I believe was part of a revamp by the factory. My guess is that this allwin had the same token release as many of the other Handan-Ni games that was later removed by the factory for some reason, possibly law changes to make them totally non gambling?
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Allwin in Australia - probably by Handan-Ni.
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Domino with deleted token release square plate.

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Re: Australian Wineasies & showman's paint

Postby ddstoys » Wed Nov 23, 2016 8:11 am

I might know where this machine is. Might have to make some enquiries and see if I can own it.
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Re: Australian Wineasies & showman's paint

Postby gameswat » Wed Nov 23, 2016 9:21 am

Where's the payout?

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Re: Australian Wineasies & showman's paint

Postby ddstoys » Wed Nov 23, 2016 11:18 am

From memory it's electric payout and it comes out into the base.


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